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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

When I grow up, I want to write like this:

https://iankduncan.com/engineering/2026-02-05-github-actions-killing-your-team/

Ian Duncan

GitHub Actions Is Slowly Killing Your Engineering Team - Ian Duncan - Ian Duncan

Why GitHub Actions is the Internet Explorer of CI, and why Buildkite offers a better path forward for teams that care about developer experience.
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José Albornoz
José Albornoz
@eljojo@ruby.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Migueldeicaza nice shoutout to garnix and nix

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bitbonk
bitbonk
@bitbonk@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza A build system that was actually pleasant to work with was @nuke by @matkoch
It‘s for the #dotnet #csharp world. It made a lot of right design choices.

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Alex M. Dunne (he/him)
Alex M. Dunne (he/him)
@alexmdunne@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza

OMG:

"Microsoft is where ambitious developer tools go to become enterprise SKUs. The original engineers have long since been reorged into other divisions or ground down into product managers..."

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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@alexmdunne no lies detected

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fleaz
fleaz
@fleaz@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza There is a followup and it gets even better :D

https://www.iankduncan.com/engineering/2026-02-06-bash-is-not-enough

Ian Duncan

No, Really, Bash Is Not Enough: Why Large-Scale CI Needs an Orchestrator - Ian Duncan

A deeper dive into why shell scripts cannot replace a proper CI control plane, drawn from years of building and operating CI systems at scale.
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sjvn
sjvn
@sjvn@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@fleaz @Migueldeicaza But, but I Like Bash! 😉 Seriously, GitHub Actions is a PITA.

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fleaz
@fleaz@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@sjvn @Migueldeicaza The "but i like bash" person in my team wrote a 800+ LOC
Behemoth that updates our production k8s clusters :D

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Gerard Thornley
Gerard Thornley
@GerardThornley@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@fleaz @sjvn @Migueldeicaza
But have you got an automated build system that relies on numerous scripts from at least two different repositories running as cron jobs on multiple hand-configured servers?
Oh, and written in several scripting languages, of which bash is only one.

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sjvn
sjvn
@sjvn@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@GerardThornley @fleaz @Migueldeicaza Messy. What are they using?

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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@fleaz omg! Reading!

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mcc
mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza I was not expecting this post to provide the most compact, compelling argument for Nix I've ever seen

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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@mcc now I need to figure out what nix is

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mcc
mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza You remember Gentoo right?

Arch is Gentoo with better documentation.

Nix is Arch but they made the build/packaging system more systematic and also set it up so you can use it standalone as a build system on non-NixOS systems.

(There's also a Guix, a GNU-sponsored version of Nix which seems to be the same except, since it's GNU it uses LISP instead of the bespoke Nix configuration language and it doesn't have sponsorship relationships with United States military contractors.)

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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@mcc Thanks for the breakdown! So it is a full distro then?

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Niklas Korz
Niklas Korz
@niklaskorz@rheinneckar.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@mcc @Migueldeicaza

A triangle with "Nix" in the center surrounded by the words "nixpkgs", "NixOS " and "Nix DSL". The last three are each connected by "is not", while they are all connected to the Nix center by the word "is".
A triangle with "Nix" in the center surrounded by the words "nixpkgs", "NixOS " and "Nix DSL". The last three are each connected by "is not", while they are all connected to the Nix center by the word "is".
A triangle with "Nix" in the center surrounded by the words "nixpkgs", "NixOS " and "Nix DSL". The last three are each connected by "is not", while they are all connected to the Nix center by the word "is".
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mcc
mcc
@mcc@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza Nix is a combined package manager / build system. NixOS is a full Linux distribution based around Nix.

Nix® is, I have just learned by accident on Kagi, a child-safe anti-lice treatment. I cannot comment on its efficacy.

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Olivier Halligon
Olivier Halligon
@aligatr@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza besides the great writing, I can 100% recommend Buildkite.
We've been using it for years at work & I genuinely find it better than all CIs I tried over my DevOps career (eg Jenkins, Travis, CircleCI, TeamCity, … all of which I've loathed for all the hair pulls they gave me over the years). It's night and day. Buildkite showed me CI doesn't _have_ to suck.
Cherry on top: their support is one of the best I've ever seen, caring humans who reply fast and really help.

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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@aligatr can I use this for my oss projects? Might take it for a spin

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Olivier Halligon
Olivier Halligon
@aligatr@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza technically yes; though as the article says it's probably more suited for when you need a larger CI infra like in a company rather than solo OSS projects, as while they do have hosted workers (eg EC2), where it shines (at least in my experience at work) is when you bring your own machines and install the `buildkite-agent` in them. If you have eg a MacMini around to use for that though, worth a try!

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Martin Hamilton
Martin Hamilton
@m@martinh.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza "You’ve upgraded the engine but you’re still driving the car that catches fire when you turn on the radio" blobcat_thisisfine

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The Penguin of Evil
The Penguin of Evil
@etchedpixels@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza We invented fast computers so we could compile a full OS in 10 minutes. So they invented CI systems to fix that.

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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
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MacBalance
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@MacBalance@mstdn.games replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza
I, a simple network engineer, have lashed with GitHub actions a bit and find them fascinating. I have a working setup taken from tutorials that feels like it’s grotesquely overkill for the issue.

So for a few sites running #Hugo (a static site generator) every time the repo is updated it has to run a build. On a local machine that could be just the command “hugo” plus “Hugo deploy” or appropriate to sync files to a destination server directory.

In GitHub, every time there’s a change it has to download a fresh copy of Hugo and supporting tools, set up a VM, and execute it. This is time consuming and seems inefficient.

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Hellma
Hellma
@hellma@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza I am trying (for my pet project) to use a configuration, that allows building locally just like on GitHub runner. Actually, I want GitHub to build as I would locally. I want one source of truth and tbh, it takes a lot of gun out of my pet project

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Ken Kocienda
Ken Kocienda
@kocienda@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza +100

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Erik Tjernlund
Erik Tjernlund
@erikt@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Migueldeicaza What language is this written in?

“if you’re a Nix shop, take a look at Garnix. It evaluates your flake, figures out what needs building, and builds it.”

A nix shop? Flake? It seems rough out there outside the Apple ecosphere.

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Joe Groff
Joe Groff
@joe@f.duriansoftware.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@erikt @Migueldeicaza tim apple won’t protect you https://github.com/nix-darwin/nix-darwin

GitHub

GitHub - nix-darwin/nix-darwin: Manage your macOS using Nix

Manage your macOS using Nix. Contribute to nix-darwin/nix-darwin development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@joe @erikt ok going to learn what nix is now

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