The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.
Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.
@randahl American conservatives are LYING when they say things like this. They don't mean it. It's all just propaganda. Pretty much 100% of what conservatives say is just self-serving propaganda, with no relationship to truth, forensics, facts, logic, or evidence.
@randahl the sequel to “Air Force One” (1997) would be so different:
Gary Oldman was imprisoned, got out, won the election of 2024, is now POTUS and travels to other countries to kidnap their presidents with his team of thugs on Air Force One
@randahl But he could be held to account in an International Court - if he can kidnap Venezuela's President and try him in US courts than surely any other country could detain him on a visit and try him for war crimes and crimes against humanity - not least for this action of aggression against a sovereign nation - no matter how bad the President of Venezuela is.
@randahl I am curious how that will play out. Although I have heard that the USA never recognized Maduro. So the immunity thing might not apply.
@randahl "We want mass deportations and secure boarders, but we also want violate other countries boarders and sovereignty with impunity."
Might makes right is the closest thing MAGA has to a consistent ideology.
@randahl But the President of the US can be held accountable in another nations court ... Right? So every time the President is traveling out of US, the President is at risk ... Right? The same must be with the soldiers, government and others, there making "criminal acts" in the eyes of other nations... Am I total out of course?
@randahl
So sick of this fat treasonous fuck.
His passing oughta be a world holiday....everyone gets a paid day off
@ChrisHolladay I have a bottle of champagne saved.
@randahl This is what happens when capitalist imperialism goes unchecked.
@randahl
Who would be on the jury? US citizens? My predication is that he will be released after some kind of deal is made. ☠️
right after pardoning a different president who was convicted by a US jury of ... <checks notes> the same "offense"? make it make sense.
@randahl all is fair in the "war on drugs." It's for the kids. Just ask Nancy.
@randahl oh he won’t stop with Venezuela, the goal was easily accomplished. He’s got his piggy little eyes on the next country because he thinks they’ll all fall to a few hours on land and some air support. It’s how greedy people think, the absolute worst thing that can happen is a greedy person getting what they want with little effort.
@randahl Well obviously one rule for the US and another for the rest of the world
@randahl Conservatism:
“There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Anti-conservatism:
“The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.”
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288
In that case, surely the President of the United States can be kidnapped, taken to another country, and be held accountable for his crimes in a court of law there.
@randahl Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague
@randahl "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." (David Friedman)
Which is grotesquely unfair. Only Australians should be allowed to have kangaroo courts.
@randahl
And the indictment is laughable.
narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine-guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine-guns and destructive devices.
Oh and half of their document is about Colombia and Mexico. They should take note
#venezuela #usa #mexico #colombia #canada #greenland #eu #europe
@randahl
He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.
Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.
Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.
@taatm I fully agree with that point. I just find it ironic that the US administration — led by a convicted felon — wants to play global policeman.
@randahl Absolutely.
The right thing, done the wrong way for the wrong reasons. Especially after the MAGA propaganda about isolationism and not helping Ukraine.
It was against international law. It was against US law. They have no post-plan. They don’t care. Trump probably wants a new friendly dictator. The only undeniable good thing was the current dictator was removed.
It was probably done as Medura was looking at Chinese long range missiles to threaten Texas oil refineries to prevent such an operation as this. A strike while they can.
@randahl @taatm
And if it's about dope...
https://www.axios.com/2026/01/03/trump-maduro-venezueal-honduras-drug-war
@bufalo1973 @randahl
No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.
These are very different.
@taatm @randahl in Spain the far right says the president is not legit and must be jailed... because they weren't elected. That doesn't mean the current president didn't follow the rules to become president. So by the far right idea, the US should invade Spain to kidnap the president... when he didn't break the law to become it. Don't you see the problem? Imagine another country where the opposition asks China to kidnap the president saying "s/he is not the president (because we say so)". Would it be right for China to do the same the US has done in Venezuela?
The kingdom of Spain doesn't have a president...
@randahl that seems to be the core of it. show dominance by applying rules, that you are somehow above.
They enjoy this. Their only value measurement is:
"What can WE get away with?"
To them, the hypocrisy is nothing bad, it's a flex of their power.
@randahl doesn't seem entirely reasonable does it?!
@randahl yes. Mind blowing. Absolutely maniacly lunatic. And the world is watching.
