@pluralistic Cory, these are really great data points. There is an antecedent: municipal socialism in the 19th century in parts of Europe, including my native Emilia Romagna, in Italy. There it was not (always) coops, but City Halls building up substantial investments, including utilities (energy, water, waste...) and transit. Eventually some of those companies federated to serve millions of people.

Something for your Green New Deal world?

@pluralistic It must be so infuriating for the customers/prisoners of those reckless ISPs... Also what incredible contrast with some european countries. Several countries, including France where I live, have reached 90+% fiber coverage ; and yes, that's the future. So much so that the copper network will be shut down in less than 3 years in my mostly rural area

@pluralistic have not read the article yet. But I'm pretty happy with @aaisp

@pluralistic Actually, there are a few good 'uns. For years, we had to make do with expensive, slow DSL. Our new ISP is DVFiber, a non-profit municipal organization that provides high-quality Internet to 24 communities in southeastern Vermont. No other ISP would ever consider stringing fiber up the dirt road to our rural home.