@andre @dentangle @neil @bkuhn
Bummer. I just learned via @jdp23 that the Cyberlicense party is already over..
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@andre @dentangle @neil @bkuhn
Bummer. I just learned via @jdp23 that the Cyberlicense party is already over..
@smallcircles
It's a hard & difficult job to write new licenses, particularly a license that serves the users (& not lawyers and their wealthy Big Tech clients.)
It's a hard & difficult job to write new licenses, particularly a license that serves the users (& not lawyers and their wealthy Big Tech clients.)
#copyleft- @next will move slowly & steadily. I must focus on the final days of the #Vizio case before trial, but I'm looking forward to my “vacation” after the Vizio trial to be work on #copyleft -next!
Watch https://sfc.ngo/vizio/ for more info on #Vizio case!
@bkuhn @next @richardfontana @andre @dentangle @neil @jdp23
Indeed. Very hard.
For that crowdsourcing campaing around Human Artifact License I imagined it targeting lawyers and license experts like you, and anyone that can contribute their valuable thoughts. And that combined with a crowdfunding to the general public, where most likely a huge number of people would be very glad to have a proper license available. I had the idea to turn this campaign into something of an art project.
@smallcircles
I frankly think crowd funding is a poor mechanism for Free & Open license creation (almost as bad as for-profit attorneys doing it).
Licenses are written today, for a creator to use a year for now an interesting work, then for someone in 5 years downstream to attempt to adjudicate their rights.
IOW, free licenses are a missive to the distant future that hope to protect rights for people we'll likely never meet.
@bkuhn @next @richardfontana @andre @dentangle @neil @jdp23
Perhaps. There are many ways to go about it. The thing lies on the shelf merely as an idea right now.
Regarding the timespan.. given how fast AI is introduced everywhere in society and damn the consequences, the question is whether your approach in this case is the best one.
If we have a license in 5 years, there may not be a democracy to give it any meaning anymore. And anyone using the license is auto-flagged by AI government.
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@smallcircles
It's a hard & difficult job to write new licenses, particularly a license that serves the users (& not lawyers and their wealthy Big Tech clients.)
It's a hard & difficult job to write new licenses, particularly a license that serves the users (& not lawyers and their wealthy Big Tech clients.)
#copyleft- @next will move slowly & steadily. I must focus on the final days of the #Vizio case before trial, but I'm looking forward to my “vacation” after the Vizio trial to be work on #copyleft -next!
Watch https://sfc.ngo/vizio/ for more info on #Vizio case!
Yeah, not sure what happened -- from the brief statement on their site, it ounds like they got some pretty blunt feedback that they weren't on the right path, and nobody bringing up the criticisms seemed interested in getting involved to improve it. They deleted their account so no easy way tosee what the discussions were like.
I too am skeptical about how much even a well-crafted license can really change the dynamic, but US laws have historically given the site more leverage against scraping than individualsm. And eupolilcy.social does have some restrictions on their terms, presumably they've thought about it and decided it's worth doing in the EU as well! So it's possible that there's some incremental legal value to a good license -- as well as a strong statement of intent.
Cara's Terms of Service were crafted by an artist who's worked very closely with lawyers on this kind of stuff so is worth looking at -- and they've also experimented with using technocal mitigations such as Glaze. https://cara.app/terms
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