And of course the Port of L.A./Long Beach that Trump suggests Iran nuke handles an enormous percentage of U.S. shipping. LAX is the main import/export point for all air shipping to and from the Far East. L.A. itself is surrounded by enormous warehouses that handle a tremendous volume of that shipping for distribution across the country. He's a moron.
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@agreeable_landfall Not to mention "ground zero" at El Segundo.
@lauren I would have thought that much of that freight traffic would have moved over to the giantic Adalando airport (former SAC base), or the remains of Castle AFB near Merced.
Both are outside of urban areas, and Adalanto has excellent rail and highway connections to the further east (and to Southern California.)
@karlauerbach Well, it does pretty much mean living in Victorville to work there. Both SCLA (what I assume you're thinking of as Adalando) and SBD (San Bernardino) have major air cargo ops, but AFAIK neither are on the scale of LAX.
@lauren You are (as usual) right. However, I've been through Victorville several times over the last couple of years and have been amazed at the housing expansion - more like an explosion - out there.
LA/Long Beach will still bear the bulk of the container/ship traffic - which is massive. I'm thinking only of that part, large but smaller than the container traffic at least in terms of weight, that comes in via air. The approach flight path into LAX already goes far to the east, so going to the old George AFB in Adalanto doesn't add much, if any, in terms of flight time or distance.
Not that it is directly relevant, but the Brightline fast-rail to Las Vegas has its initial south terminus in Victorville. (Construction is already visible at the Las Vegas end. And like all such things they could financially crash before finishing.) That speaks to the potential growth of the Victorville/Hesperia area.
BNSF might need to expand its Williams-Phoenix rail line.
@karlauerbach Naw, it's all still centered at LAX and moved directly into those warehouses in surrounding Industry, Vernon, etc. where there is almost zero live-in population. Then they go directly out again by air or truck or train. Big plus is I usually get shipments from China VERY quickly once they hit the airport. What's interesting is that they tend to be delivered each time by some guy in a car working for some last mile delivery firm I've never heard of.
@lauren My thought about LAX vs Adalanto is that LAX is overburdened for much of the day and is emeshed in a region of heavy traffic delays (less for trains and more for trucks.)
Adalanto is surrounded by very close-by giant warehouse facilities - and an ICE prison. It's runway is much longer than LAX - it had to handle SAC's heavy B52 fleet. And unlike LA, trains and trucks heading east don't have to deal with getting out of central LA and over Cajon pass - that's half a day of travel time saved - of traffic and subject to Cajon pass weather - whether that travel is by rail or truck.
Former Castle AFB is similar but Adalanto has much better rail/road connections to the east.
(Adalanto is also one of the largest of the old-airplane scrapping facilities. It is impressive.)
BTW, the city of Adalanto is well known as a speed trap, especially out on US 395 where the city has extended its limits far, far to the north.
This is useful, at least for trucks:
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/freight_analysis/reg_ind_studies/so_cal_study.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_California_Logistics_Airport
Yes, but we don't like him, so it's a small price to pay for him. A bonus, actually. Not considering all of the registered Republicans in those two cities...
@lauren And he wonders where his Nobel Peace Prize is.
@lauren And the USAF Logistics Base, where all those goods headed for DoD get loaded and distributed to military and humanitarian missions.