@cwebber tbf if they're burnt out I'd suggest the LLM doing the fun stuff for them isn't the problem. If it was the response would be boredom not burn out imo. Being burned out sounds like not knowing how to take a day off to me. I believe I see this a lot in engineers who don't know how to do anything else (this was me at one point)

@cwebber tech debt is bad enough and burns you out quickly enough when you're the one doing the actual architecting, can't imagine how bad it'd be letting stochastic parrots take the wheel but i guess it sounds pretty dang bad

@cwebber I'm so glad I never let an agent anywhere near any of my actual code

I wish I never decided to ever try communicating with an LLM instead of a damn plushie about whatever issue I happen to be stuck on

and I am so fucking glad I stopped when I did

@cwebber shortcuts always come with a bill. 🙃

@cwebber I've had luck with getting the robot to only work on a tiny section of the code and not look anywhere else. It helps in the sense that the robot can type faster than me and runs tests automatically. I'm not sure what more folks expect from it.

@cwebber I made something for work using Blender, and a higher-up suggested using AI.

sure, take away the most fun parts. Why don't you kick my robot dog

@cwebber just to be clear, Mastodon is all in on anti-Ai?

@cwebber I uh ....

I kinda went the other direction.

I'm taking my time engineering the shit out of the simplest piece of software ever: a contact form server. I was burned the fuck out. Now I'm having fun again :)

I'm still baffled and hurt that the people who thought xor with hard coded "password" is "encryption" were seen as more valuable than me, but I'm enjoying this again and enjoying the progress I am making.

I don't need AI to spam reviewers with working and fully tested code

@cwebber on one have this is awful, was completely preventable, and now the commons is riddled with sloprot including many critical projects that will take decades to rebuild and this hurts *everybody*

on the other hand, [nelson from the simpsons voice] HAW HAW

@cwebber Unfortunately, a lot of FOSS now is career checklisting.

Just like high school students know to add volunteering to their college application -- to look like they want to help others, show leadership, and are exposed to different life experiences...

CS grads know to have a GitHub account with activity -- to look like they have passion for the field, do something clever, and have that added experience.

That started before AI, and AI homework cheating culture makes it worse.

@cwebber Sounds exactly like drugs. Seems to be helpful, puts most users ever deeper into trouble.

The ones that might be able to mange it don't need it.

@cwebber You're being far too gentle on the latest scourge of humanity. These same folks, a few of whom will _get away_ with vibe coding this or that, will go on to inflict it on the world. There's already enough shitty software. A whole generation things needing to periodically reboot a computer is "just how computers are." We don't need more shitty software but faster. #Vibecoders are "management" aspirants, DHHs in the making, people that never wanted to learn how the sausage is made, and still never want to be in the kitchen where it's made. They just want an "easy button" with which they can "make it" declaratively, by fiat, the same way #AgentOrange claims to be a "builder" by throwing currency at actual builders.

@cwebber

So you wrote a good spec and your humans won’t abide by it…

@cwebber

Like when the little baby alien tunnels into your ear...