@onepict I used to listen to that "Bob and Van" guy's podcast. And over time I started to notice he sounded a lot like many of the folks I used to deal with back when I freelanced for various "libertarian" outfits. There's a clear progression from complaining about perceived minor inconveniences to deciding that *you* are the real victim of persecution you need to defend yourself, possibly by storming a larged domed building.

@onepict researchgate has decided my IP is evil, is there another copy of whatever that is?

@onepict we had a lot of this on the rave scene - men who were misogynists and predators were tolerated and even got power because they were providing resources such as vehicles and sound equipment, and on a subculture that was mostly funded by laundered partydrugs dealing money with a libetarian centrist attitude no-one understandably wants to deal with conventional authorities!

So it led to factions being formed, vigilanté actions and in some cases outright violence, which ofc gave the Police a good reason to get their teeth into clamping down on the whole scene (as understandably when blood gets spilled the "normie" authorities have to step in)