@afewbugs Thanks for all of this. Honestly thinking of printing it in case the time I need it is also a time without reliable internet

@afewbugs Great thread! I might add a few supplementary things:

1. A home first aid kit, maybe with additional bandages and some OTC meds like paracetamol, ibuprofen gel and Savlon

2. A supply of batteries and some battery powered lamps (cheaply available and last ages, more practical than candles)

3. I keep a supply of disposable lighters in case candles turn out to be necessary

4. A few basic gadgets that can be plugged into the battery pack (rice cooker/soup maker)

@afewbugs Add extra stocks of things like antihistamines and ibuprofen that tend to have go other usage if one is needing to do more physically than usual. Days without accustomed resources can get exhausting and painful fast, there can be surprise mold or dust, etc.

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Thank you for that! It’s always the water that bugs me, it’s bulky, needs refreshing frequently and you use far more of it than you think! Any more than 5 days and you’re really struggling domestically.

More conspiratorially I would be surprised if extreme weather was the only thing they’re worried about and not the current grey zone conflict that all the warmongers have stirred up that can take out the infrastructure remotely.

@afewbugs Useful thread. Thanks. Intrigued by the need for a black water storage container - we usually have a few supermarket (ie cheap) bottles of springwater (usually leftovers from festival season), and the use by is crazy long. Yet they are clear. I'm guessing because they are sterile when bottled?

(Note, I’m definitely not saying you're wrong. Just intrigued how the clear springwater bottles can stay fresh for so long)

@afewbugs We had a think about this. Our loft/attic has a 100 litre tank. Most UK houses do for historical reasons. We also have a 2 ring camping stove with enough gas to cook for a couple of weeks at least. And we generally have enough tins and dried carbs to last a few days at least, depending. So we're probably OK.

(The loft tanks are basically giant one-way valves to ensure that grey water can never flow back into the mains. When indoor plumbing was invented that seemed logical).

@afewbugs because of our location we (and neighbours) tend to keep a min food stockpile that builds up in autumn and reduces in summer. Except water, never short of that here.

Currently, 12kg rice, 6kg pasta, 2kg oats. 24 cans tomatoes (farmfoods sell those by the case), other tinned goods such as fish, 12 cans various beans. 12l oatmilk, 4x 350g coffee, teabags, etc.

Freezer also full of veg, bread, quorn. Have a generator that can run the freezer if needed. Other stuff beyond these basics.

@afewbugs I note that the 10" water filter tubes (typically used with, dunno, 100 and 5 μm filters?) seem to be selling well/baiting panic buyers on eBay. Like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232599320911 .

Might be worth waiting a month before buying anything, ignoring the likelihood that such a delay will make something terrible happen in the next few weeks.

@afewbugs I'm getting vibes of the old Protect and Survive material from the cold war. There was a booklet you could order from the Home Office, and also some quite disturbing films which were classified and only meant to be shown if a nuclear attack was expected.
http://atomica.co.uk/

@afewbugs you are such a brill fount of knowledge, and it is so appreciated that you share it, thank you 💚