Post by @mawhrin@circumstances.run

RE: https://circumstances.run/@mawhrin/117167466758241828

folks, i'm sorry to inform you that justin m. keyes, the primary dev of @neovim absolutely hated the idea of removing an endorsement by a bona fide fascist from the main webpage of the neovim editor.

what happened: i've opened a ticket asking to remove the heinemeier hansson quote; keyes responded to the ticket a few times, first with simply “don't care”, then with more angry elucidation, then closed as not planned, and finally the issue was removed altogether).

unfortunately i have only mail receipts, which missed the rage part of the episode.

social.orva.fi

orva (@orva@social.orva.fi)

@mawhrin @mackuba @brentsimmons justinmk and something like this: "I don't care. I don't care about the drama you are trying to rise. Write a blogpost about this. Tell my employer about this. Put me on Drew Devaults list. I don't care"

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 10 hr. ago

@mackuba @brentsimmons

fwiw i've opened an issue asking to remove the endorsement on neovim website's bug tracker, and we should have clarity as to the neovim's position regarding dhh one way or another.

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MaddieM4

@MaddieM4@raphus.social 2 hr. ago

@mawhrin @neovim Remember, kids! It's not cancel culture when a white guy wants to cancel all the brown people out of Scandinavia/Europe/wherever, but it *is* cancel culture when you ask the maintainers of a text editor not to platform that guy on their homepage. Now you know!

Mark Wyner Won’t Comply :vm:

@markwyner@mas.to 4 hr. ago

@mawhrin

https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/117168384803154983

@neovim

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 7 hr. ago

viable alternatives:

@drew's vim-classic, a fork of vim 8.3 code base,
@mrmasterkeyboard's evi, a fork of pre-vibe-coding vim 9.1 codebase,
helix. no plugins, but uses tree-sitter and supports lsp servers out-of-the box.

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Vim Classic

Codeberg.org

evi

EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.

Toxy 🔬🇪🇺🇸🇪🇬🇧🇺🇦

@toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.se 8 hr. ago

@mawhrin @neovim Jesus, Mary and Joseph! This fascist whack-a-mole is bonkers. All IT geeks I know hate the politics of the far-right. Is this just that the Nerd Reich has all the cash to fund these arseholes, like most of the media?

Albi, A Black Domain

@albinanigans@blackqueer.life 6 hr. ago

@toxy @mawhrin

this shit is FRUSTRATING.

I have to start making a list of #Fashware and Nerd Reich stuff; I'm starting to have trouble keeping track

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 3 hr. ago

@albinanigans @toxy @mawhrin we have an older list

@zzt time for a new edition for autumn?

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 9 hr. ago

in conclusion: i'm terribly sorry to tell you all that, but @neovim is #fashware.

Ember :catplant:

@Ember@blobfox.coffee 7 hr. ago

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 9 hr. ago

very obviously, i'm looking for a replacement for @neovim now.

Andrew Golding

@huronbikes@cyberplace.social 9 hr. ago

@mawhrin @neovim "I want to edit text but without nods to fascism" shouldn't have to be a tall order and yet here we are.

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 9 hr. ago

@mawhrin @neovim ed is the standard text editor

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 8 hr. ago

@davidgerard fuck you too :-)

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wfk

@wfk@social.v.st 3 hr. ago

@mawhrin @davidgerard why? :-)
Tbh, ed has for decades been the one emergency editor that I could safely assume to always be available, no matter how fucked up my system was.
It's more capable than SOS, more user friendly than TECO (and nobody would claim these days that ed is user friendly...), and available on pretty much any vaguely unix-like system.
And to my knowledge, it has not been ruined by association with fascists or AI fanboys.

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 1 hr. ago

@wfk because @davidgerard knows very well that i am not looking for an advice telling me to turn to ed(1) and is just taking the piss here. :->

gemelen

@gemelen@mammut.moe 9 hr. ago

@mawhrin
Unfortunately, on that side of the emacs vs *vi* "war" there is pretty much nothing. The only acceptable one is the de-slopped vim version, I guess?

@neovim

flere-imsaho 🇺🇦

@mawhrin@circumstances.run 9 hr. ago

@gemelen at this stage i am seriously considering moving to emacs, and you need to understand this: i'm using vim as a primary editor since it was distributed on fred fish' disks with software for amigaos. so, more than thirty two years now.