@hongminhee how can we get more East Asian #ActivityPub developers involved in the #W3C #SocialCG and #SocialWG?
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@evan I think the language barrier is the first thing to tackle. Live video calls are the hardest format for non-native speakers, so shifting more of the work to written communication would help a lot, and every meeting really needs minutes, even rough ones, since at least those can be run through a translator afterward. I've tried the newer real-time transcription and translation tools a few times and honestly the quality still isn't there, especially with ActivityPub-specific jargon that general models just don't recognize; feed a bad transcript into a translator and it gets worse, not better. Written async channels, like the FEP process already is, seem like a better fit for now. On the community side, @fedidevkr (a Korean fediverse developer group I'm part of) has been kicking around the idea of a session where people draft FEP proposals together in Korean first, then translate and refine into English as a group. Still an early idea, but I think local hubs like that could lower the barrier more than any single W3C-side change.
So, we might not be that far off. All the CG/WG meetings are supposed to have minutes to read. They all go into https://github.com/swicg/meetings .
@hongminhee @fedidevkr for asynchronous collaboration, we have two main mechanisms.
One is using GitHub issues and PRs. We have two main GitHub repos for ActivityPub and Activity Streams respectively, and issues are the main way we coordinate work.
https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues
https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues
There are specific task forces for different application areas for the community group, so for example this one gives you issues for geosocial apps:
@hongminhee @fedidevkr the second mechanism is the mailing lists; one for the community group and one for the working group.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/
These are places for discussion but also for decisions. In particular, no decision is made by the community group without a 14-day call for consensus (cfc) on the mailing list.
So, it's entirely possible to follow work and participate from there.
@hongminhee @evan @fedidevkr >Live video calls are the hardest format for non-native speakers
and timezone is also an issue since most English speaker live in Europe or America, so the time different is too large.
@caohuak @hongminhee @fedidevkr
We actually moved the SocialCG/SocialWG meeting to accommodate east Asian time zones. We now alternate between a Europe-friendly time and an Asia-friendly time. If we need to move more, I think we would!
@hongminhee @evan @fedidevkr I think the process can be changed to allow multi-lingual proposals. As separate markdown files sharing the same hash, perhaps
@hongminhee @evan @fedidevkr I think the process can be changed to allow multi-lingual proposals. As separate markdown files sharing the same hash, perhaps
@hongminhee
Hi,
Have you ever tried to reach those people ?
https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/
May be they could help. (I hope )
@hongminhee i mean
Aurhors and editors if possible if it makes sense
@evan
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