Discussion
"I understand being mad, I understand not tolerating it, but I think there's an uncomfortable truth, representing the world being a messy place where few things are completely black and white.”
— @matt_birchler: https://birchtree.me/blog/comfortable-and-uncomfortable-truths/
RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/117153978063180917
@marcoarment @matt_birchler it would be great Marco, and Matt, if you could both think a least a little further than “we need more nuance”
Including by reading my post about the nature of boycotts, and why some can’t simply be avoided without the accountability that goes with the decision to look away:
@nileane @marcoarment @matt_birchler I was really disappointed in the conclusion of Matt’s post and dumbfounded that someone usually as verbose as Marco quotes part of someone else’s essay for his first response to this situation and its fallout.
I’m trying to find reasons to keep following these guys after almost a decade but I only see reasons to quit and block.
@marcoarment Everything is some shade of grey, I agree 100%. As an outside observer, I think Matt is a genuinely good person who seems to always be level headed about the latest drama. If someone wants to use twitter it’s fine by me, I don’t use it and am not going back. I’ll never see their content again.
My (and lots of other people who are far better at communicating their thoughts) issue with it all is the secrecy and blindsiding colleagues and friends. They know, not even that deep down, that being on Twitter supports (monetarily and ideologically) the worst humanity has to offer. So they did it quietly, and when called out tried to hush people with a post not shared to Twitter (Can’t let the bros over there see they don’t like Elon). Nor to the main feed so people not following on here wouldn’t know.
I agree with Matt, people are way too quick to just shut down and hear no more. But in this case? Completely correct. Where Musk is involved there’s no semblance of nuance.
Btw, the continued support of Gruber by all the Apple blog-adjacent folks disgusts me and I really thought better of all the ATP hosts. I appreciate you’re not political (Mostly, you rightly get riled up on ATP about Trump, Cook, etc. 😅) but genocide support doesn’t feel political, you know?
@marcoarment You don't have to choose to make a mess and excuse yourself on the basis that everything else is already a mess. 🤷♂️ Own your decisions, no?
@marcoarment @matt_birchler I understand the want to soften the reaction to Federico since he is also a tech commentator.
However, I DO think there’s a moral failing in using X. I’m still friends with people who do, still follow creators who do, but I also don’t forget it when considering their character.
What Federico did is even worse because it was done in an underhanded way that hid it, implicated contributors, and broke the trust of his base. He shouldn’t get a pass on those things.
@marcoarment @matt_birchler How do you square this with the criticism of Tim Cook's relationship with the Trump administration. Both bad? Both necessary?
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