@randahl @lydiaschoch This looks amazing, except for winter and trying to find the thing, or plowing/ snow clearing without damage.

@randahl And even when we would have these colorful big stations: They would smell much better then any gas station. Promissed.

@randahl
I have been thinking of how we could implement that exact solution in our townhome parking lot, and it’s been in Germany since last year. Here’s a link for anyone who needs it:
https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/products/charging-infrastructure/curb-charger

@randahl Is this L1? L2?

@randahl Real-world sidewalks are rarely that pristine. Especially once autumn hits, they’re wet, dirty, and buried under leaves. Nobody wants to fumble with cables in the muck. We’d be better off bypassing this stopgap entirely and jumping straight to wireless charging or newer tech.

@randahl we need bikes!

@randahl kerbside sockets would be excellent in residential City Centre locations

@randahl I think it's a not well thought-through idea. What about: torrential rain, snow, ice, grit and salt, dogs peeing and pooing (and let's not forget the drunken guys who will invariably think it's a funny idea to pee on it), and not needing to get on your knees in any road condition to plug in (assuming the user is even young and mobile enough to reach down)?
Given this is visibly AC charging, it does not replace giant DC chargers, but relatively slim pillars.

@randahl I disagree. We need more fast DC chargers with >300 kW power, not these slow bring-your-own-cable AC outlets. It's okay to have those at your workplace or at home where you stay for hours, but anywhere else they are just inconvenient.

@randahl It could, but here. With the now periodic floods, the curb is tipically underwater: I don't think I'd plug anything there. Moreover, the electrical grid can't sustain chargers.
The last time the EU assigned to Italy a 6 M€ fund to build street chargers only a few thousands € were used, the rest was returned. Infrastructures were missing, and bribes were too complex to be arranged on time.

@randahl
There are now also to be several curb loading stations in Leipzig. I hope it doesn't just stay with the few for testing.

@randahl If only EVs weren't so stupid overpriced. In my country all EVs are advertised as 12k or 15k €. And then you read what all the asterisks mean and it's a 30k car with fuck ton of eco grants slapped on top. And how these grants work? Well, you first need to shell out full 30k € and then literally "hope for the best" to get any of it back. I can't just throw 30k there and hope for the best!?!?!?! I need a guarantee I will when I'm buying the damn car.

@randahl they have them built into lampposts in london

@randahl what works be even less obtrusive and more appropriate to a city is an ebike ;-)

@randahl So, the EV future is just a curbside outlet?

@randahl no

@randahl but that can only be a 11KW AC charger, with the thin cable. Not really attractive any more.

@randahl seems harder to repair tho

@randahl "Tell me you're <50 without mentioning your age"

:P

@randahl The problem are ICE vehicles occupying those slots. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@randahl Do you need to BYO cable? Or is that hidden elsewhere in the curb? That's one thing nice about charging stations; the cable is part of the station and you don't have to dig the cable out of your trunk (it's almost always underneath everything) to start, nor do you need to clean it off and put it away once done.

@randahl That would be a problem for folk who get rain and snow...

@randahl I like the idea, but I think it would be defeated by dirt, rain, and ice. It’d also be inaccessible to people with disabilities.

@randahl Saw this in London a couple of years ago

@randahl I guess water and ice won’t be a problem with this mounting…

@randahl. I'm wondering how well that works when it's raining or snowing?

@randahl And even more better if the car being charged is not a Tesla.

@randahl Absolutely!

@randahl come on. what we really need are magnetic charging pads in the roadway.