Another unhinged argument I had on here was when I asserted that corporations (which I defined as a legal entity that is used to engage in commerce) are not inherently capitalistic (for example, a co-op enterprise)
They did NOT like that.
When I pointed out that there were legal corporations in Japan over a thousand years ago, their counterargument was "they used SLAVES"
okay but that is also not the same as capitalism....
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Then they got mad when i argued chattel slavery is not capitalism, accusing me of being a slavery apologist. no. slavery is evil. capitalism is evil. capitalism drove the atlantic slave trade and all atrocities thereof. but capitalism and slavery are two entirely different things. u can tell because they are spell different. more than one kind of thing can be bad. pls keep up
What was so capitalistic about the Atlantic slave trade vs the ancient Roman slave trade for example was that the Atlantic slave trade was turbocharged by relatively newly introduced financial instruments (stocks, bonds, futures) incentivizing wealthy Europeans who lived in nations in which slavery was illegal to invest in the slave trade to get a slice of the pie
You see here how capitalism - CAPITAL - made something already bad so much worse
So we return to
Not capitalism: I sell a sock to get money to buy a pizza
capitalism: some asshole in Belgium sells shares in the British East India Trading Company to get money to buy shares in the Dutch West India Company
Bonus hot take: "mutual aid" is a symptom of a failed society. The ideal society is not built on mutual aid. In the ideal society someone can get the resources they need without having to publicly broadcast their own desperation and perform humble supplication for the approval of benefactors. In the ideal society even assholes get what they need with dignity and privacy. Because if an asshole can get what they need nobody can deny you because they "didn't like your tone" or whatever
@Xibanya I think your take on what “mutual aid” is has been limited by your experience in a capitalist society.
