@tinker you know when age verification started only on california and then extended on the rest of america? This is the same. They are just testing it in one state for later extend it on the rest of the country.
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@tinker *“We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.” *
- - *Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
@tinker Seeing as completely disinformed and stupid many technology laws are, I often wonder if this is also true for laws on things I don’t know (like farming). But maybe these laws had more time to evolve in something better as it is a field that existed forever.
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Everyone start posting "Fuck Trump" and "86 47" in their Amazon ratings. Get Jeff fined.
@tinker you know when age verification started only on california and then extended on the rest of america? This is the same. They are just testing it in one state for later extend it on the rest of the country.
I don't think that's what happened. The UK passed the Online Safety Act and started enforcing it. The OSA requires platforms to do age verification, which they do in a bunch of privacy-hostile ways, and (rightly) blame the government for the fact that they're harvesting even more personal data.
California rushed through a poorly worded law that said that, if doing age verification is required for any purpose then you must use whatever 2-bit value the OS gives you and you may not verify it unless you already hold contradictory data for another purpose (which privacy legislation in California already restricts). And operating systems must have some mechanism for passing the 2-bit value so that 'my OS doesn't provide it' isn't a valid excuse.
Then the rest of the US started trying to pass laws like the UK ones.
@tinker authoritarianism sees no issues here
@tinker Sounds like they've finally found their angle to attack VPNs, which have been a thorn in some politician's sides for a long time. Age verification will be the wedge.
@tinker Why does everyone think this isn't already federal policy?
@tinker Welcome to religious legislature, this is the problem in America.
And morons state, it's because they're allowed to believe in whatever religion they want. But it says congress shall pass no law restricting the religious beliefs of others, roughly, which is where putting the word god everywhere got REALLY toxic and un-American.
Why wouldn't they pretend to be clueless idiots? You keep falling for it over and over again. You and everybody else.
These people know exactly what they're doing.
@tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.
@tinker how about journalists, lawyers, people in research... people who would be vulnerable without VPN?
This is my apology to any website, based in Utah, that I may visit at any time I may be using a VPN.
If I know/knew you were/are based there - I would not visit - thereby saving you the law breaking results - and further with no visits/clicks potentially putting you out of business.
@tinker The goal seems clear to me here. Websites that allow VPN connections can be held liable.
@mcg - That's certainly the goal.
How does the website know?
How can the state know?
@tinker VPN’s have IP ranges that can be blocked.
@tinker @mcg A Utah cop uses a VPN into Colorado, then visits every website. The ones that don't try to verify the age of the Utah person get shaken down under this law. Every website in the world would have to include a "cookie law"-type popup asking "Are you physically located within the territorial jurisdiction of the US state of Utah?" or face some cold Utah mountain justice.
@tinker @darkuncle An amateur mathematician, Edward Goodwin, attempted to pass legislation to define π as 3.2 in Indiana in 1897 so they could make a proof work: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/02/05/indianas-state-legislature-once-tried-to-legislate-the-value-of-pi/
