@MikeElgan as a European we feel deeply sad & also recognize we shouldn't have been as reliant on the US. Totally against US interest if the nations that fought and died alongside the US in Afghanistan will have 0 incentive to help in Taiwan (likey next US major theatre) after all the threats & bullying. Only positive thing is Trump will revitalize us recognizing we need to stand stronger in a multi-polar world. His anti-EU lackeys suffer (Orban) as a result. Art of Mercusor (&other) deals!