@cdonat literally zero people use that. Anything which requires installing yet another app is a non-starter.
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Before I go and build something, does anyone have a template for all the payment services?
Looking for a bunch of buttons which are *consistent* in size / shape.
All the official ones seem to be as different as possible!
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@Edent
I don't know of any collection, that includes all these icons. Most lack liberapay, and opencollective.
Probably the easiest approach is, to get the monochrome logos from all of them, and build consistent HTML-buttons.
For OC I found it here: https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective-frontend/blob/main/public/static/images/oc-symbol.svg and for Liberapay: https://liberapay.com/about/logos Paypal, and Ko-Fi are here: https://github.com/sethcottle/littlelink/tree/main/images/icons though the Ko-Fi-Logo isn't monochrome. You might prefer FontAwsome here: https://fontawesome.com/icons/ko-fi?f=brands&s=solid
@cdonat see further down the thread.
Great, so I was late :-)
Maybe have a bit wider padding around the logos, and make the logos smaller. Like e.g. here: https://littlelink.io/
But that's like nitpicking ATM. It's not the most pressing issue, of course.
@cdonat it's all good feedback 😃
First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.
Thoughts?
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I'm experimenting with a "voluntary paywall" on my blog posts.
If you've enjoyed something I've written, or found it useful, feel free to chuck me a few quid or buy something from my wishlist.
https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/02/reputation-scores-for-github-accounts/#paywall
@Edent I just had a weird¹ idea.
Set prefs to require follower approval. When people donate, they somehow link their Fediverse handle (donation comment?), which then allows that follower request.
¹I didn't say it was a good idea.
@Edent do any of those accept crypto?
@Edent Wow, I was to send you a £1 tip just for fun and PayPal would have charged me a 0.99€ fee, which I refuse to pay out of principle. I'll check the other options.
@Edent Ko-Fi would let me use PayPal and seemingly stemmed the fee and had a fair pound sterling conversion rate, but then this error happened.
@Edent No luck. Ko-Fi didn't let me pay you with Google Pay, not with a credit card directly, and also not with a credit card powered by PayPal. The latter even went through the Verified by Visa thing that I confirmed, but it ended up at the same PayPal error message. Can't be arsed to sign up to something like Wire or any of the other options. I'll get you a drink should we ever meet. Promised.
@Edent Idle curiosity… Which of those services:
(a) sends the most of any payment to you? (fewest fees / deductions)
(b) do you prefer to receive funds from? (quickest / easiest / lowest maintenance etc if it's not the same answer as 'a').
@bensmithuk PayPal and Wise do no fees. Both are instant.
Ko-Fi is fee-free but I think takes a little time.
OpenCollective has fees and is slow.
Never received anything by LP, so no idea.
Amazon is usually next day 🙂
Honestly, I prefer receiving weird shit from Amazon - but they're all in the "fun money with low effort" camp.
@Edent @bensmithuk PayPal no fees? How? I get spanked by it here whenever one of my projects gets sent support.
@Scott @bensmithuk
User to User payments don't incur any fees.
If someone is buying something or sending money to a business / organisation then there are fees.
@Edent (I am guessing.) Your home made copies of corp branding for a project?
The multinationals (none consumer facing) I have worked for are very vigilant of their brand use. Not just look and feel, but were and how it is used. IME better ask them first.
@Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.
@tychotithonus yup. The idea they would be in a visually distinct box saying "pay me using…"
@Edent I've never used Ko-Wis Donen col. Are they any good?
@Edent shields.io has most of them already: https://shields.io/badges/open-collective-backers#
@liaizon they're so *ugly* though! No branding, tiny, and bland.
@Edent there are themes there and you can have the logos too, and they can be any size, as they output svg
@liaizon I'm obviously being a bit thick. I can't see any way to make, for example, a PayPal button that looks good. Very happy for you to tell me which magic command I need.
(its an svg so any size you like, also the colors are encoded in the url, if you don't like the pink choose any color you want)
paypal
https://img.shields.io/badge/paypal-donate-pink?style=for-the-badge&logo=paypal
kofi
https://img.shields.io/badge/kofi-donate-pink?style=for-the-badge&logo=kofi
liberapay
https://img.shields.io/badge/librapay-donate-pink?style=for-the-badge&logo=liberapay
open collective
https://img.shields.io/badge/opencollective-donate-pink?style=for-the-badge&logo=opencollective
cashapp
https://img.shields.io/badge/cashapp-donate-pink?style=for-the-badge&logo=cashapp
@liaizon Ah, I see. Sadly, they're all different widths and don't use the official fonts. So I'm not sure if they'll work for my purposes. But I'll give it a try - thanks 😃
@Edent hmmm, on the one hand, being able to give creatives payment for their work is a nice idea.
On the other hand introducing profit motive on posting is kind of a major reason commercial social media is so toxic. Do we want that incentive structure here?
@Edent I think it would be huge for folks who are often de-platformed because of their art or job, but I think we'd have to be _really_ careful with the potential for scams and malicious implementations because of the decentralized nature of the Fedi. Might need some form of mutual vouching or other safeguards against fraud...
@Edent I'm confused by the concept of paying/tipping for a particular post. I can't think of a single interaction I've had which would cross that threshold where I feel their comment or assistance was sufficiently helpful or valuable to me to send money.
But maybe something to tip instance admins?
@Edent
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Should blocking cost money (paid to instance mod's)?
Could such a system be abused?
@IvanSanchez I should be able to charge people to reply to me 🙂
@Edent What?! Outrageous! In this 43-chained-toots essay I will...
@Edent i don't see how that would work for "mastodon" as a whole. maybe individual servers might like to get into bed with a payment processor, but "Mastodon"?
Might as well ask if we'd like a "reverse global warming" button. sure, that would be useful. But. But.
@Edent I'm afraid integrating something like this into the platform would lead to perverse incentives like monetization, bots, bait posting, influencer culture and a lot of the capitalist nonsense that has destroyed mainstream social media.
I think it's fine to ask for tips or donations or aid in a post but where the actual platform is concerned we need to remember the medium is the message.
@krapp I'm curious. What do you think the difference is between having a link in a profile and a link on every post?
@Edent putting a link on every post gives the impression that every post and every account is a money making opportunity.
Just having a link in a profile or an occasional post is situational, it implies nothing about the overall platform or its incentives.
@Edent To spin it even a bit further/weirder?. Could tipping/subscriptions be a federated service itself? You set a limit on your account and can reach anyone that has it enabled. As a bonus you get to decide whether to tip public on a specific post or to the recipient or as DM.
Anyone not interested in the noise could just mute the servers.
@Edent @neil this is “one of those things”… stripe/paypal have 30c+3% per transaction
So if you want to handle microtipping, you need someone to hold onto the tips and then pool them together to have a “payment consolidation” period… or escrow style.
A lot of trust plus dealing with taxes and international currencies and exchange rates etc etc.
And I dislike blockchain….. but as a concept, I’d love the idea of content creators getting paid.. but maybe patreon is a better option for creators.
