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Kristie
Kristie
@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

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@xinit@mastodon.coffee replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris
It's been rising for a hundred years, but they let the disguise drop.

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@heuveltop@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris Never again requires education, and teaching, but was sounding to much as resistence against the new powers. We had needed to teach all people to be part of society and be an active member of governing our societies. But we were lazy and kept believing on strong leaders, and benovelent dictators. The USA was designed for a fascist takeover because convenience was to attractive.

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@GutterPoetry@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris

It can't be #neveragain until humans keep sociopaths out of politics, out of any positions of power. That's why greed is overtaking humanity's real progress.

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@AGT@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris Very well said, I agree totally, and you have a new follower.

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@hanktank61@NerdJoy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris Mainly as tourist wife and me travelled a lot all over the UK, for 44 years bow. There is a lot of Bad, but also Good. After Maggie, things did not improve for commoners. But we saw local social networks getting stronger. Through church, clubs, places-to-meet and talk and stay warm. Finally see that happening in The Netherlands too now. There is lot of noise. That is not where it is happening.
It is just there where it is needed.
"To be the grain of sand building the dyke.

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Nicole Parsons
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@Npars01@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris

The last rise of fascism had its funding & inspiration from The Moneyed of the UK & USA.

Both empires never got over their hankering for colonialism, slavery & bigotry.

Fascism had the same kind of financial backers then as now.

1. Hitler got funding from Henry Ford & IG Farben

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/07/31/hate-speech/

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ford-and-fuhrer/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/henry-ford-antisemitism-jacob-schiff-money-kings/

2. The Duke of Windsor recommended bombing his own former London subjects & sold information on defenses ...

1/

Mother Jones

Henry Ford Perfected the Mass Production of Cars—and Antisemitism

The famed automaker not only inspired Hitler but gave rise to stereotypes and conspiracy theories that continue to plague Jews.
The Nation

Ford and the Führer

Research assistance provided by the Investigative Fund of The Nation Institute.
Washington Monthly

Henry Ford vs. Elon Musk: A Century of Hate Speech

Each auto mogul paid a price for their hate speech. Will the Tesla and SpaceX CEO find a way to learn Ford's lesson?
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@ArenaCops@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris There was a lesson to be learned from the rise & defeat of Nazi Germany.

It should've been taken seriously.

The people still can. And they should! Their voices & feet in the streets being the weapon of choice to defend their rule, their democracy!

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@lexinova@cyberplace.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris Why do you think French people have their own everything US ever proposed ?

Their general de Gaule, that became president later NEVER forgot the United State did not follow their promise to help them when hitler attacked (some plane where promised from memory).

Even if US go out of this ... the world will never forget that the US put a knife in their "allie" back

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Carmen Zedler
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@rabenmutterschafft@mastodon.bida.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris
Actually, it's not real fascism – it's the tyranny of a madman, a kakistocracy in a kyriarchy. And all of this has its roots in the mentality of the Wild West in the USA.
No one wanted to see that.

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Barry Goldman
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@barrygoldman1@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris the worst thing about Nazi Germany is that we tend to think of it as an unthinkable aberation when in fact it IS the way of H. sapiens.

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Kristie
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@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@barrygoldman1 I hope the world gives me a reason to disagree.

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@barrygoldman1@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris i think it is healthier for us to understand ourselves rather than hide our heads under the sand! then we could at least try to heal from a place of reality.

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@tompearce49@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris
Every November, on the 11th, and on Remembrance Sunday, I see the great and the good, some of whom have taken us to war in the past, go through the act of remembering the "War to end wars". And then go back to business as usual and the arms trade and the euphemistically named "Defence Industries" and nothing changes. They are hypocrites, every one of them. I empathise fully with your worries as fascism stalks the world once more. The same old battles generation after generation.

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Kristie
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@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@tompearce49 I fully agree.

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Mensch, Marina
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@energisch_@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris We feel the same. We're heading into dark times. But I won't give up hope, that even in the USA at this advanced state of fascism the people will rise up and throw out that poisonous gov and all its supporters.
The silver lining of all this: maybe Europe will finally learn to better stand together, become more independent from USA, but also China and Russia. We need to learn the benefits of solidarity again.

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Kristie
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@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@energisch_ I hope for the same but I also worry so much for everyone putting themselves in harms way to protest and fight this.

Fascism needs to be stopped before it gets settled and in Europe we still have a small window of opportunity to do this. Maybe what's happening in the US will provide the motivation. I don't know if it's enough.

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Mensch, Marina
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@energisch_@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris I sure hope so. And I hope our politicians finally will wake up, too and grow a spine strong enough to counter any intrusion and blackmail of Trump and his fascho criminals.

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@libramoon@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris

What every US citizen can simply do NOW

we #US citizens need to immediately demand
our #Congress impeach and convict Trump asap,
or be #primaried by those who will
write/phone/email/scream outside their offices

find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

contact your congressional representatives asap (before
the primaries) to demand the return of our country, that
they immediately impeach Trump! and Spread the word!

Find Your Representative | house.gov

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@kimlockhartga@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris It took me a long time to realize that some people weren't mad at Hitler for what he'd done, but rather that he failed.

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@xylophilist@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris The lip-service becomes ceremonialized (becomes misunderstood) becomes a stance in its own right becomes the next cycle of aggression and revenge.

(FWIW this is why I'm a not-even-white poppy type; nothing about the story of war, before/during/aftermath, deserves respect or amplification.)

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Kristie
Kristie
@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@xylophilist Also not a poppy type. I thought the whole point of memorialising was to remember. I feel constantly in shock.

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@xylophilist@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris It would be nice to think memorializing was a means to (retain) peace, but n'yeah...

If you wander around town around Nov.11, you find commemoration displays tend to congregate around civic and church organizations - as distinct from, say, a random florist shop or swimming pool - a kind of nexus of tradition (one of my least favourite misfeatures of the human psyche).

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@aho@ioc.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@kristiedegaris they said never again after first world war... sadly we are not capable to keep your word when it comes to politics 😞

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Kristie
Kristie
@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@aho Yes, we've had many opportunities to say 'never again'.

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Kristie
Kristie
@kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Lassielmr We're seeing a similar trend of emboldenment in the UK.

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