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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Here is my Ukraine peace proposal:

1. Putin is sent to The Hague.
2. Russian soldiers leave Ukraine including Crimea.
3. Russia returns all kidnapped Ukrainian children.
4. Russia releases all Ukrainian prisoners.
5. Russia pays damages for everything their war has destroyed.
6. Russia pays damages to Ukrainian families who have lost family members.
7. Russia pays damages to every person who has been tortured, abducted or otherwise criminally mistreated.
8. Ukraine becomes a member of the EU.

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pione :vim:
pione :vim:
@pione@mastodon.uno replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl are you European?

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@pione yes. I am Danish.

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André Polykanine
André Polykanine
@menelion@dragonscave.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl As a Ukrainian, I approve.

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@menelion glad to hear it.

Slava Ukraini!

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Lisa is @lrt ⚠️
Lisa is @lrt ⚠️
@lrt_writes@mstdn.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl amen to that! 🇺🇦

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Karen Simpson
Karen Simpson
@vesperto@gladtech.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
Good plan.
Apply it to the US, China, North Corea and israel too.

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Jan Antoš
Jan Antoš
@janantos@f.cz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
9. Russia destroys all nuclear weapons under international control.
10. Russia is not allowed to have weapons with range longer than 500km
11. Russia pays reparation for hybrid war against other nations.
12. Size of Russian army will be capped.
13. Non Russian nationalities districts within Russia will have rights to declare independence.
14. 200 km wide demilitarised zone on Russian western border.
15. Kaliningrad area is demilitarised and under international control.

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Petr Skála
Petr Skála
@Petr90@mastodonczech.cz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl 👍👍👍

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Siff
@Siff@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @briankrebs 9. Ukraine becomes a NATO member

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@FourQ ♿
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@FourQ@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl A sound plan. My first question is how do we get you to sit down with them to hammer this out?

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Mirko Adam
Mirko Adam
@elshid@social.librem.one replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Does 10 also apply to Russians (such as, let's say the survivors of the biggest school shooting of all times (to which the Russians sent MBTs and even so-called Flamethrowers (yes, you read right)), see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege).

Beslan school siege - Wikipedia

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Philip De Norr
Philip De Norr
@soulevolution@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
Are you in payroll list og Mr. Zelensky?

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Lord Tom Klopf of Bohemia
Lord Tom Klopf of Bohemia
@thomas_klopf@dobbs.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl dude I’m with you, but let Ukrainians decide what is enough compromise. It’s so scary for them and we can’t even imagine what the war-weariness is like. The only appropriate proposal is what the majority opinion in Ukraine is on this.

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Robin Barton
Robin Barton
@Robo105@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl I like the way you think and I hope something reasonable is rescued by Europe and Canada

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Morten Kjeldgaard
Morten Kjeldgaard
@mok0@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl I support this plan.

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C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
@csstrowbridge@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

I would be willing to go with 1, 2, 3, and 4, with 8 being replaced with, "Russia has no say on any nation joining any international organization."

Drop 5, 6, and 7 and in exchange, the West won't openly support any separatist movement in Russia, unless they directly ask us to.

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ShadSterling
ShadSterling
@ShadSterling@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl I’ve never understood why we imposed sanctions on e.g. Russian oil, but didn’t require all payments to go into escrow to be spent on restoring Ukraine before anything goes to Russia

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Jamie Booth
Jamie Booth
@jamie@boothcomputing.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

9. Ukraine joins NATO.

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Craig Johnston
Craig Johnston
@ultravan372@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
this sits with me much better

Trump is an embarasment...

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gavinisdie :troll:
@gavinisdie@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl probably out of the acope of just a peace treaty, but i'd also add the complete dismantling of Russia's nuclear arsenal and a heavy reduction in Russia's military capability

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Pieter Swinkels
Pieter Swinkels
@swinkels@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl 9. NATO becomes a member of Ukraine 😉

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Marcella Francesca :verified:
Marcella Francesca :verified:
@bitchboss@marcella.masto.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

I would like to change no 1.

1. Putin is thrown out of a driving car and backed up over a few times. You need to wash the car and leave the body to the crows. It saves you de trip to Den Haag and us taxes to keep that jerk behind bars.

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Alfred J. Kwak (audiokontor) ☕
Alfred J. Kwak (audiokontor) ☕
@mc@toot.houbahouba.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl you forgot :
9. Russia will be dissolved giving independency to every province/region willing to reach sovereignty.

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Sassinake! - ⊃∪∩⪽
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@Sassinake@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

Russian *oligarchs pay the damages.

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Free Gardenia
Free Gardenia
@Gardenia@piaille.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Bravo.

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elenlaw
elenlaw
@elenlaw@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl as a ruzzian, you even can annex us(I beg you guys)

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Gurre Vildskägg
Gurre Vildskägg
@Gurre@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
9. Ukraine joins NATO.
10. Russian military leaves Moldova, Georgia, and Belarus.
11. Russia resigns from the UN Security Council, and the permanent seat goes to India.
12. 300(?) km deep demilitarized zone inside all European borders of Russia.

and now for ones that are more open for negotiation:
13. Plebiscite on independence in Kaliningrad in 2 years time (i.e. 2 years after the military has to leave including huge chunk of the local economy).
14. Circassia restored!

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Bonsai861
Bonsai861
@bonsai861@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Can we swap Hungary for Ukraine?

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Dr Andrew A. Adams #FBPE 🔶
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@a_cubed@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @Rojertb
…and of NATO.

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Janusz Leidgens
Janusz Leidgens
@Killerdackel@androiddev.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl and you only need 8 points

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@FishNamedDog@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl 9. Russia's seat on the Security Council is taken by Ukraine. Technically it's for the USSR, and if Ukraine is Russia, Russia shouldn't be objecting...

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Helgi Crookehorne
Helgi Crookehorne
@Helgi@101010.pl replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Musk's peace proposal, ban anyone who reports about bad Russians and pretend the war is not happening

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Mark Ohe
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@mark_ohe@mastodon.energy replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

Same!

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cake-duke
cake-duke
@oneloop@mastodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Anything less is an insult. @randahl

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P T R
@pedrobizbikedu@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @FantasticalEconomics A fair and balanced solution.

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Ciela-An Orca Ally
Ciela-An Orca Ally
@Ciela@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl finally some good peace proposal.

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Stoneface Vimes
Stoneface Vimes
@capnthommo@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl sounds like a good plan.

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Ditol
Ditol
@ditol@freiburg.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
9. Peace negotiations.

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David Pollak
David Pollak
@dpp@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @quinn how about NATO membership?

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Roadzombie
Roadzombie
@Roadzombie@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

Does the Treaty of Versailles mean anything to you, and how did it turn out?

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Maier Amsden
Maier Amsden
@MaierAmsden@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Sounds great. Won't happen any time soon, but, yeah...

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CartyBoston
CartyBoston
@CartyBoston@mastodon.roundpond.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl you forgot "Trump gets a Nobel"

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Andrew J Spaulding
Andrew J Spaulding
@AJ_andrew69@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl. That sounds fabulous for the Ukrainians!

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Preston MacDougall
Preston MacDougall
@ChemicalEyeGuy@mstdn.science replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
9. #Russia collapses
10. #China and #NATO decide where to draw the #SinoFinnishBorder

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Jim Sullivan
Jim Sullivan
@RIJim@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl 9. Ukraine joins NATO.

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Virgil Tibbs 🏳️‍🌈
Virgil Tibbs 🏳️‍🌈
@virgil_tibbs@norden.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

the security guarantees for ucrain are missing. rest is good

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gentlegardener
@gentlegardener@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl adding : immediately return z district and nuclear power plant to ukraine control or eu ownership; ditto for crimea odessa all black sea ports. bring in inspectors to assess damage contam unexploded ordinance those 2 areas now. escort russian operators both places to their country - russia. preferably far west.

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Stéphane Bortzmeyer
Stéphane Bortzmeyer
@bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Ukraine joins NATO? Or is it too radical?

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Hanna
Hanna
@HannaEsmeralda_@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl To number 8. And NATO.

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JxPet
JxPet
@jxpet@mastodon.au replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl if asshole putin won't sign this, he must not want peace.

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SometimesLovely
SometimesLovely
@SometimesLovely@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
And the European Defence Community standing outside of Nato, making independant decisions. Sanction remain on Russian trade until Putin and his legacy is ended. (Not advocating 3rd party regime change!)

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loralee
loralee
@LoNoze@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl

And BB goes to prison for life

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LΞX/NØVΛ :lesbian_flag: 🇪🇺
LΞX/NØVΛ :lesbian_flag: 🇪🇺
@lexinova@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
9. EU obtain authority to Peace Keep Russian.
10. EU Take Russian people from EU to form them to lead the democratic shift in Russia
11. EU obtain authority trough those Russian people to reform the political system to enforce Democracy.
12. Ukrainian obtain transparency report on the point 9, 10, 11.

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Andy
Andy
@AGT@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl I’m totally with you. Russia’s out of control and getting worse.

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Barbara Monaco
Barbara Monaco
@Barbramon1@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl 9. Ukraine becomes a NATO member.

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Wilfried Klaebe
Wilfried Klaebe
@wonka@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

9. Ukraine becomes a member of NATO.

@randahl

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Fañch
Fañch
@FanchLAC@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interventions_militaires_des_%C3%89tats-Unis_dans_le_monde

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Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
@sloanlance@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
That's a good start. The plan should also include…

• Ukraine is admitted to NATO.

#SlavaUkraini #peacePlan

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GrumpyDad 🇺🇦🇵🇸
GrumpyDad 🇺🇦🇵🇸
@grumpydad@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl And of course Ukraine is welcomed into NATO

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Toke Riis Ebbesen
Toke Riis Ebbesen
@tokeriis@helvede.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl The difficulty with this plan is that it presuposes a scenario where Russia loses. If it looses, there is a high likelihood that Russia will fall apart in smaller states, thus no-one to apply # 2-7 to, and that Putin himself will be "disappeared" before he can go to court in Hague.

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@touaregtweet@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Works for me. Now do one on Netanyahu, then we can welcome them together here in The Hague.

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notsoloud
notsoloud
@notsoloud@expressional.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
9. A 100 km demilitarized zone around Ukraine patrolled by NATO forces.
10. All other war criminals go to the Hague

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Hans Dampf
Hans Dampf
@Tschekka1982@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl Exactly! And immediately! ...and Trump should shut up and stay out of it.

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Joachim 🇪🇺
@jotho@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl You would definitely make a better US president, but I have an inkling you may not count this as a very flattering compliment.

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@Tussi13@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
Slava Ukraini!

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@RaymondPierreL3@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
Yep, that seems fair. You’re not even asking for the dismantlement of the Russian Mafia Regime.

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GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺
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@Eetschrijver@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl And NATO, right?

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Fraser McLean
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@frasermclean@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl 9. Ukraine joins NATO

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pagra
@pagra@piaille.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl a step is missing: Putin falls from a window, in a very unexpected manner, of course.

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Thierry Van Kerm
Thierry Van Kerm
@thierry_van_kerm@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
I go for your plan but you've forgot one point:

9. Ukraine becomes a member of NATO
🙂

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@thierry_van_kerm I thought about that, but I do not think this is necessary. EU countries would never allow an attack on another EU country.

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Thierry Van Kerm
Thierry Van Kerm
@thierry_van_kerm@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl You're quite optimistic. As long as European countries do not have a strong European defence system, independent from the unreliable US, I'm afraid, there is no choice but including Ukraine in NATO because of its existing constitution.
And I'm personally for an independent Europe defence system. I'm not a fan of NATO under the US leadership

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Pierre
Pierre
@PierreM@piaille.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl not sure about the right point though.
Ukraine deserves true democracy right now, nott o have to deal with the likes of Orban.

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@PierreM Orban loses power in March 2026, so this will not matter.

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RBuzz
RBuzz
@rbuzz@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @PierreM and he will be elected in place of Zelenski? ;)

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scheichsbeutel
@scheichsbeutel@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @PierreM So we thought a few years ago. And i suppose you will be disappointed again: Living near the border and speaking to the people from time to time i can't imagine that will happen.

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Nicole Parsons
Nicole Parsons
@Npars01@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl @PierreM

Here's another:

Accelerate the switch away from fossil fuels. Enough with the oil wars.

Putin can't fund a war if people don't buy his toxic fossil fuel products.
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2025/10/08/eu-unites-to-phase-out-russian-oil-and-gas-imports/

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-parliament-committee-supports-quicker-phase-out-russian-gas-2025-10-16/

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2025)775863

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/european-parliament-seeks-faster-phaseout-of-russian-oil-and-gas

Trump can't wreck the planet on behalf of his oil oligarchs if people switch to cheaper solar & wind instead.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-oil-industry-donations

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/nov/21/cop30-live-fossil-fuel-phaseout-final-text-brazil-belem-latest-news-updates

https://theconversation.com/this-years-climate-talks-saw-real-progress-just-not-on-fossil-fuels-269903

https://theconversation.com/renewable-energy-is-cheaper-and-healthier-so-why-isnt-it-replacing-fossil-fuels-faster-269685

Common Dreams

Trump to Big Oil Execs: Give Me $1 Billion and I'll Help You Wreck the Planet | Common Dreams

"You won't read a more important story today," said one commentator. "Trump is willing to literally destroy the planet for $1 billion."
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Pierre
Pierre
@PierreM@piaille.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl will he?
And it's not only about Hongrie, many european countries (including mine...) may sooner or latter (and sooner rather than later) fall to thé far right :'(

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acffh morst
@morst@toad.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@randahl
Yep, that seems fair.

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