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Mariya Delano
@mariyadelano@hachyderm.io  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

I’ve been testing a theory: many people who are high on #AI and #LLMs are just new to automation and don’t realize you can automate processes with simple programming, if/then conditions, and API calls with zero AI involved.

So far it’s been working!

Whenever I’ve been asked to make an AI flow or find a way to implement AI in our work with a client, I’ve returned back with an automation flow that uses 0 AI.

Things like “when a new document is added here, add a link to it in this spreadsheet and then create a task in our project management software assigned to X with label Y”.

And the people who were frothing at the mouth at how I must change my mind on AI have (so far) all responded with resounding enthusiasm and excitement.

They think it’s the same thing. They just don’t understand how much automation is possible without any generative tools.

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Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@mariyadelano @paninid Plus, all those conditional statements are (probably) deterministic, so they’ll do the thing asked of it every single time. AI (LLMs) might do it correctly some of the time, or it might do it similarly with variation, or it might not do it correctly at all.

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Josh Davis
@GuerillaOntologist@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@mariyadelano I've been thinking that a simple program that just returned the first sentence of every paragraph in a text would probably be a superior replacement for "AI summaries" that everyone seems so enamored by.

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Alex, the Hearth Fire
@WizardOfDocs@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@mariyadelano does Randall Munroe still sell "I know regular expressions" shirts? Those need to come back.

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alcinnz
@alcinnz@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@mariyadelano You know: At an event I attended the presenter referred to a weather model as "AI".

There was noone there I could ask to clarify, but as I'm keenly looking to pick up some of this work myself... I now know that, as I suspected, it wasn't by any meaningful definition "AI"!

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Diane
@alienghic@timeloop.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@alcinnz @mariyadelano

I watched some of the live stream to save climate science and a few people mentioned work on trying to develop machine learning methods to estimate weather prediction instead of full physical simulation model runs.

They believed that a machine learning estimator could be more efficient than the simulation.

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alcinnz
@alcinnz@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@alienghic @mariyadelano Yes, there is that. And I do see how it makes some sense.

But from what I'm hearing, NZ's mostly using physics sims at the moment.

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Joe
@not2b@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@alcinnz @alienghic @mariyadelano It seems that all of this massively parallel hardware optimized for quickly multiplying large matrices with high memory bandwidth it just what you need for physics simulation, so when the AI bubble bursts the weather and climate modelers will have all the cheap hardware they need.

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alcinnz
@alcinnz@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@not2b @alienghic @mariyadelano And maybe that could lead to me finding work in tech which excites me: Computationally efficient spatial modelling!

I can dream, can't I?

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Diane
@alienghic@timeloop.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@alcinnz @mariyadelano

It was my best guess for a possible use of "AI" in weather modeling that I'd heard of, however I have no idea if it applies to your speaker.

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AlgoCompSynth by znmeb 🇺🇦
@AlgoCompSynth@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

RE: https://hachyderm.io/@mariyadelano/115548761092296218

@mariyadelano Yep ... the whole *point* of AI is that they don't want to pay *you* a living wage to learn programming and write and maintain software, they want a computer in a data center to do it all.

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David Culley
@davidculley@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@mariyadelano This is exactly my experience. They just ask for some automation. And naturally, due to their cluelessness, their first thought is AI.

What they ask for can almost always be delivered with zero AI:

- find all occurrences of A in a text and replace them with B
- transform the CamelCase words in all this text to snake_case words
- auto-indent this text according to our style guide

All you need is a basic grasp of your text editor and/or the ecosystem of the programming language of your choice.

I understand that a non-technical manager doesn't understand the difference between this and AI. But when I see senior engineers who don't understand this, I wonder how they ever earned the Senior in their title.

Years since graduation from university isn't the same as experience. Having survived multiple years in the same job without growth isn't the same as being senior.

None of the mentioned "use cases for AI" are sophisticated. If you want to auto-format your code in a way that is always correct, just execute prettier, black, rustfmt or sqlfmt, depending on whether your code is written in JavaScript, Python, Rust or SQL. I will never understand people that write up a Confluence document, jotting down their personal preferences and pet peeves, and then ask Copilot to format the codebase according to that Confluence page, and each time get different results and/or merge conflicts with the non-deterministic LLM messing up half the time.

Also, LLMs are popular since about 3 years. How the fuck did managers ask their engineers to replace all occurrences of A with B, four years ago? Before they could say, "Use AI to do it."

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