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Neil Brown
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk  ·  activity timestamp last month

New #blog post:

"'Here's what I do' versus 'You should'"

A bit of a gripe about people who tell others what they should do.

https://neilzone.co.uk/2025/08/heres-what-i-do-versus-you-should/

#fedimeta#Linux#FOSS

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Tim Chase
@gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil

Most of the time I'm recommending something, it comes from a place of "thing X didn't work for me, and I switched to Y and it has worked better. I see you're complaining about X too…have you investigated Y?" Sometimes it's a readily-viable solution; sometimes it would be a big ask, so I tend to soften it a bit.

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Petra
@PetraPhoenix@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil

So many people interpret "here's what I do" as "you should do this too" though.

It was something I found when I home educated the kids. If I said I home educated most people took it as a criticism that their kids went to school, despite me saying that home ed wasn't for everyone in the same way that school wasn't for everyone. I never understood it.

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holga
@hpk@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil avoiding "should" or "must" when addressing others is also my long running practice, some decades now.

However.

Just resorting to "I" I find pretty unsatisfactory. So I am on a quest to be able to talk in "weak we" forms, to signal there are actually a bunch of us, and there is community to be lived and found. Otherwise there is a risk it perpetuates neo-liberal thinking while the right wing occupies "community" and turns it into a violent mob because people want to belong ...

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TrueNorthSpice
@TrueNorthSpice@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil

Good suggestion for effective communication.

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mal3aby
@mal3aby@mastodon.smears.org replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil Yes!

One of the problems with "should", even for those with the best of intentions, is that the word is ambiguous: "you should do X" can be used to convey (among other shades of meaning) "I believe that doing X might well be in your best interests", but also "Not doing X would be a moral failing on your part". Even genuine kind-spirited advice intended with the first meaning can come across as criticism/manipulation with the second...

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samir, a distributed system
@samir@mastodon.functional.computer replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil Yes, thanks for writing this!

I have three words I try to avoid: “they”, “should”, and “is” (or other variants of “to be”).

It’s not a perfect fix, but I find it helps.

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Diane
@alienghic@timeloop.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil

A moderated queer support group I used to go to had a rule to use "i statements and avoid you should" when discussing topics, to make it more inclusive and feel safer for participants.

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Amgine
@Amgine@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil

"Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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RevK :verified_r:
@revk@toot.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp last month
@neil Not counting RFCs
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