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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

... and then it goes exactly where I expected, but with a frankly surprising level of candour;

"There is no grey area and rarely any edge cases to consider. Your [community] adopts a mantra that the people you’d like to gather around your community love to hear: You share our beliefs on what is fundamentally moral, ethical, and right, or you leave. If they choose to stay, you ban them. It’s as simple as that."

https://scribe.rip/how-to-make-cool-communities-and-discord-servers-literally-just-ban-bigots-ab740cfc0e3b

One word; Gloriavale. This is exactly how they operate.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Instead, give trolls you're banning what they think is a human mod, but is actually a Markov scarecrow stuffed on anti-bigotry discourse, and let them argue with that to their heart's content.

If you and your fellow mods need a laugh, get in a voice conference and read out some of the more hilarious troll-scarecrow interactions to each other : P

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

... and then it goes exactly where I expected, but with a frankly surprising level of candour;

"There is no grey area and rarely any edge cases to consider. Your [community] adopts a mantra that the people you’d like to gather around your community love to hear: You share our beliefs on what is fundamentally moral, ethical, and right, or you leave. If they choose to stay, you ban them. It’s as simple as that."

https://scribe.rip/how-to-make-cool-communities-and-discord-servers-literally-just-ban-bigots-ab740cfc0e3b

One word; Gloriavale. This is exactly how they operate.

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Again with the "Nazi bar" trope.

This is a sensible strategy for a very specific situation. It's a business, with an owner and staff. It's an-person situation. It's a socialising space, intended for people letting off steam. It serves highly poisonous beverages which temporarily (and then permanently) make people brain-damaged.

People often extrapolate from this to a web forum or chat room, or even more so a whole decentralised network. They clearly have no idea how silly this looks.

#NaziBar

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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

"... some staff members sided with people upset about the fact that the server had become Political, and plenty of others were completely unable to recognize the hate symbols like triple parenthesis being thrown around)."

https://scribe.rip/how-to-make-cool-communities-and-discord-servers-literally-just-ban-bigots-ab740cfc0e3b

You're always supposed to ban people who use those, right? Along with anyone who drops the N-bomb? What if they're Jewish or Black (or both), reclaiming their power by ironically claiming a hate symbol? Ban 'em anyway? How do you know who is who?

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Irenes (many)
@ireneista@adhd.irenes.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@strypey attention to detail.
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DaveOfTheNui
@WainuiTrailerTrash@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@strypey I actually had to google that.
Now I'm not sure if I should be glad that I'm so far out of the social media loop to have not known about the triple parenthesis thing, or sad that I seem to have been living under the rock of obliviousness?
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Strypey
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@WainuiTrailerTrash the first one, definitely. I had to look it up too, I'd never come across it until today.
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