⚠️ In four days Gemini wants to scan your phone ⚠️
Stop #Google now: 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android
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@Tutanota in four days the mobile networks may be down. Don't play what if
@Tutanota
I don't have WhatsApp, and I don't see Gemini listed in my apps. But it keeps trying to turn on AI in all my searches. Even though I turn it off and hit save. Every time I reboot it's on again. Now what?
I don't have WhatsApp, and I don't see Gemini listed in my apps. But it keeps trying to turn on AI in all my searches. Even though I turn it off and hit save. Every time I reboot it's on again. Now what?
@Tutanota
Heeft e/os geen gemini? Ik zie het niet bij de instellingen
@Tutanota I don't think gemini is installed on my Moto g. Should I install and then cut it off per your description? Bit confused here as you can tell.
@Tutanota I can't find any of these options on mine, so it's probably device- or region-specific. I know I have something gemini-ish on there because if I hold down the home button a few tens of miliseconds too long it decides to interpret that as a 'voice prompt gemini' press.
@Tutanota Talking about AI… why do you enable auto-translation on your blog without first asking the user?
Last one who did this was Google’s https://web.dev and it’s annoying every time.
Tuta blog opening in the browser and being almost instantly translated from English to French. There’s evzn a cross-fade transition between the two languages.
@meduz It's not AI, the website detects your browser settings and changes to this language. If you scroll down, to the right, you can switch back to English.
@Tutanota Okay, thanks. My UI recommendations:
- handle the change server side and not while I’ve started reading in the UI
- move the language selector in the main navigation at the top
- before switching language, ask the user (e.g. show a banner “This article is also available in {detected language}.” With a button “Change language to {language}”.
- handle the change server side and not while I’ve started reading in the UI
- move the language selector in the main navigation at the top
- before switching language, ask the user (e.g. show a banner “This article is also available in {detected language}.” With a button “Change language to {language}”.
@Tutanota
Does anyone know if this is still the case if I've never used the Gemini app? I looked into disabling the settings, and on the "Review key info to access Gemini" screen, (I had never enabled it) It gives options for "Use Gemini" and "No thanks"
If I click No thanks, should I be not using it, or allowing it at all?
Seems surprisingly clear, in the "Ask me later" generation of apps.
@Tutanota What todo if i havent used gemini on my phone?
to the question whether i wanna use it, i said: No Thanks
DO I need todo smth? or i'm okay
@Tutanota
Running Android 13 Samsung and no Android installed. I'm just don't install AI bloat.
Running Android 13 Samsung and no Android installed. I'm just don't install AI bloat.
@Tutanota
Looks like sometimes it can be an advantage that your phone is no longer supported with software updates. But of course it doesn't make it easier to shop for a new phone.
Looks like sometimes it can be an advantage that your phone is no longer supported with software updates. But of course it doesn't make it easier to shop for a new phone.
@Tutanota
Would much appreciate it if someone tech savvy can tell me if disabling/uninstalling Gemini will screw up my Samsung phone and tablet. I'd like to crush Gemini like a bug, but not if it disables phone/tablet. Thanks in advance for guidance!
#Gemini#PrivacyAI
Would much appreciate it if someone tech savvy can tell me if disabling/uninstalling Gemini will screw up my Samsung phone and tablet. I'd like to crush Gemini like a bug, but not if it disables phone/tablet. Thanks in advance for guidance!
#Gemini#PrivacyAI
@Tutanota The first time I booted my new phone I was able to remove the Gemini app, when I finished the Google FI set up, it came back and I am no longer able to uninstall the app, just disable it..
@Tutanota i still have a samsung device with me. But i have removed almost all google and samsung apps(only kept some important ones. Without them it would bootloop).
@Tutanota thnx for this tutorial, excellent stuff. What if you don't see the Gemini app in your app list? I have android14, it's also updated.. not sure if i disabled it before, but can't find it in the disabled apps either..
@Tutanota There is no Gemini on my smartphone, and neither is it to be found on my tablet. Maybe it's installed by default on newer Android versions, idk.
@Tutanota it's kinda nice running an android phone that's apparently too old for them to bother fucking with. Gemini can't run at all on Android 8, so guess what I run? No app to delete.
@Tutanota Using android means you need to use Google Play services which is spyware.
@Tutanota This kind of thing makes me happy my old phone uses a pre-gemini build.
@Tutanota laughs in e/os
@Tutanota "We've made it easier for GEMINI to interact with YOUR DEVICE"
Does that sound like a good thing to anyone?!
We've made it easier for our spyware to control your data...
@Tutanota If you have a Google Pixel, check out @GrapheneOS. its past time to drop Google.
@Tutanota if anyone has any resources on how far one has to go to keep Gemini off of an iPhone, it would be very very appreciated.
@Tutanota Step one says "Open the Gemini app from your Android device". But doesn't tell me how to do this. This is typical of the "how to do X on your phone" instructions I come across.
@Tutanota I think that those care about AI and privacy and security are not using Google's version of Android
@Tutanota Can I just disable the application?
@Tutanota
If we uninstall the Gemini app, won't that do it?
@Tutanota **** Gemini,
Choice
Pixel 9 -android os
Pixel 9 - grapheme os
OR
Huawei mate 70 Rs - harmony os
Theres only one back door in the Ryzen chip and America ain't got the key 😀.....
@Tutanota does any of this apply if I don't have gemini installed as an app?
@Tutanota WTF is Gemini? Do I need to care about it?
@TimWardCam @Tutanota It is Google's AI assistant. It is on every Android device and in the google browser as the "AI summary" function. Failure to explicitly opt out of this on July 7 will result in Gemini digesting absolutely all of your personal information. Once this happens, nothing can stop "prompt injection" from being used to extract it by a malicious actor, and it will have the capability to perform actions on your behalf that require touching sensitive personal information, and even the most basic weak privacy boundaries are breached. This system is reprehensibly invasive and broken, but it is being pushed out anyway. This deserves everyone's attention.
@Tutanota Genuine question: if I completely disable Gemini on my Pixel I am sent "back" to Google Assistant.
Is my data actually safer in that case?
I see it reads the screen anyway if I activate it (mostly by mistake) and it absolutely does not have the same settings as Gemini.
Is my data actually safer in that case?
I see it reads the screen anyway if I activate it (mostly by mistake) and it absolutely does not have the same settings as Gemini.
@Tutanota billionaires will not be satisfied even when they have complete access to our personal lives.
@Tutanota I currently have both Assistant and Gemini disabled on my Google Pixel Fold (original). No Gemini app to select and change the settings of. Will keep an eye on it and see what happens after the 7th.
@LaserdiscTurtle Great, do keep us in the loop when you spot anything.
@Tutanota As far as I can tell, there is no Gemini on my phone, due probably to the fact that I only install and update via a third-party website, have no Google account on it, and have as much dialled-down and disabled as possible.
@Tutanota Easy to use description. Layperson-question: I don't have this Gemini app on my phone (Galaxy A21s, EU law) and remember that I had already deactivated the search assistant. Does this app appears automatically in 4 days? Or is it hidden somewhere?
(BTW; I even don't believe that Google doesn't collect data if deactivated.)
@Tutanota No such app on my android!? 🤔
@Tutanota They store data for 72 hours because that's how long it takes for them to train models on your data. Then they can delete it because they don't need it anymore.
@Tutanota I've read the post, but I'm not sure if it is enough to disable Gemini altogether? I've never used it.
@Tutanota Would anything happen if Gemini was not installed, like an automatic install of Gemini?
@Tutanota welcome to AI agents. Apple will go the same way, Microsoft in Windows as well. And the users will love the benefits, the simplicity.
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