#Tag · bonfire.cafe

Oh, what also just comes to mind is the #Polyproto protocol. I think it may have been created in reaction to ActivityPub's complexity and issues around identity, not sure.

https://polyproto.org

And another protocol in the works, inspired by AP is #Versia.

https://versia.pub

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@smallcircles@social.coop replied · 3 weeks ago

@jackwilliambell @neia

What I notice is an uptick in interest in #Hypermedia and using the open web standards as intended and best supported in browsers.

You see that in web frameworks that go for radical simplicity, like #Datastar at https://data-star.dev where the front-end offers intermediate-mode #UI and logic shifts to the back-end.

What I found interesting (for its concepts) many years ago when #LinkedData was still hottish, was the #Hydra hypermedia project.

https://www.w3.org/community/hydra

jbz

@jbz@indieweb.social · 4 weeks ago

MESH: I tried HTMX, then ditched it - Alex Moon

｢ My big problem with HTMX, as it stands, is that it lacks that structure. Taking a look at HTMX the first time, my reaction was: "...so, declarative jQuery." I could see, as if before my very eyes, the spaghetti that inevitably grows out of a library like this. HTMX leaves it up to the developer to impose discipline on their code, however they see fit ｣

https://ajmoon.com/posts/mesh-i-tried-htmx-then-ditched-it

#htmx #hypermedia #webdev

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Alex Moon is an Australian-British software engineer and artist based in the North East of England.

FediForum

@fediforum@mastodon.social · 2 months ago

What are subjects related to the #Fediverse, #Bluesky, and the entire open social web that are at the top of your mind now, in late summer 2025?

How could we get them best covered at FediForum in October?

https://fediforum.org

Travis F W

@travisfw@fosstodon.org replied · 2 months ago

@fediforum #hypermedia is top of my mind. How can people quickly shape and share richer experiences, like epubs, virtual stickers (clipping image to just a character or shape, like a star), a gallery or slide deck, or a 3D scene?

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@smallcircles@social.coop · 2 months ago

@silverpill @erlend @zicklag @pepper0

Yes, effectively the adoption strategy is founded on the existing broad adoption of the whole web technology stack. That's one smart way to go and build on the shoulders of giants, then leapfrog ahead.

It also anchors us to existing web tech as the one and only way, a given. Despite the protocol stack having many issues and countless innovations available where people are exploring new areas. E.g. @interpeer @librecast

Defaulting to Web may inhibit these.

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@smallcircles@social.coop replied · 2 months ago

@silverpill @erlend @zicklag @pepper0 @interpeer @librecast

Btw, I'm personally convinced that we'll move towards hybrid decentralization where federation and #p2p co-exist peacefully side-by-side.

Regarding web I think there are natural places where the technology shines, in linking #hypermedia resources. And places where its use represents a Golden Hammer anti-pattern.

For #LinkedData I feel it has yet to see its killer app, that such hypothetical app exists, yet likely never materializes.

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@smallcircles@social.coop · 3 months ago

@judell hey, this is very interesting. The old VB UI in a new web jacket. I just tooted about the Rube Goldberg machine that is modern web dev, and in some ways I was more empowered at the start of my career in 1997 with Visual Basic.

https://social.coop/@smallcircles/114878688112419149

You might have a look if maybe there isn't a cool combination to make with #Datastar at https://data-star.dev which recently went v1.0

They continue where #HTMX stopped, in #hypermedia land, where they use #WebComponents for complex UI.