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Nathaniel Gregory
@Faithslayer202@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

Understanding the fantasies that make up #libertarian understanding of #money is key to understanding their cosplay worldview of the singular, atomized man.

https://realprogressives.org/mnc-podcast-ep/episode-347-libertarianism-vs-reality-with-brett-scott/

#Politics #Democrats #Republicans #Liberals #Conservatives #Vote #Election #DemocraticParty #RepublicanParty #DonaldTrump #Trump #JDVance #Vance #JoeBiden #Biden #KamalaHarris #TimWalz #Democracy #US #USA #ElonMusk #Musk #Fascism #Fascist #BernieSanders #AOC #FraudSquad #Progressive #MMT #ModernMonetaryTheory

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⚯ Michel de Cryptadamus ⚯
@cryptadamist@universeodon.com  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

one of the millions of posts to think about when MAGAs and Elon etc. are saying that the left wing are the ones calling for violence

(this was apparently posted to the Libertarian Party's account by Jeremy Kauffman, an infamous race scientist and favourite of #elon. it earned him a visit from the #FBI and/or secret service, which he documented on social media)

#uspol #violence#politicalViolence #kamala#secretService#newHampshire#NHpol#JeremyKauffman #elonMusk#X#twitter #libertarian #libertarians#MAGA #rightwing #rightoid

Libertarian Party NH @LPNH
Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.
Libertarian Party NH @LPNH Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.
Libertarian Party NH @LPNH Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.
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⚯ Michel de Cryptadamus ⚯
@cryptadamist@universeodon.com  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

one of the millions of posts to think about when MAGAs and Elon etc. are saying that the left wing are the ones calling for violence

(this was apparently posted to the Libertarian Party's account by Jeremy Kauffman, an infamous race scientist and favourite of #elon. it earned him a visit from the #FBI and/or secret service, which he documented on social media)

#uspol #violence#politicalViolence #kamala#secretService#newHampshire#NHpol#JeremyKauffman #elonMusk#X#twitter #libertarian #libertarians#MAGA #rightwing #rightoid

Libertarian Party NH @LPNH
Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.
Libertarian Party NH @LPNH Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.
Libertarian Party NH @LPNH Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.
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Clayton Dewey
@clayton@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

It ain't sexy, but if we want that #solarpunk future of high density, walkable, decommodified housing the city of Lakewood needs to ditch its racist, classist zoning laws that mandate sprawl.

AKingsbury
@AlexanderKingsbury@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
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How very #libertarian of you.

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DoomsdaysCW
@DoomsdaysCW@kolektiva.social  ·  activity timestamp last year

I recently met up with a friend who used to be a #Libertarian. He told me that he now identified as a #DemocraticSocialist, and was planning on voting for #Biden (and that #BernieSanders showed him the light). I wonder how many Libertarians have distanced themselves from #MAGA types, since they seem to have pretty much taken over the LP?

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Ultralibertarianism / Wokitarian Manifesto

Pt. 2

- Consent is defined as more than one empowered individuals agreeing to an act.
- Decisions that affect only one person should only be implemented by that one person, only towards themself. We shall call this "self-determination."
- In order to avoid tyranny, decisions that affect more than one person (aka "public policy") must be subject to, and guided by, empiricism, rationality, and the non-aggression principle. (ERNAP? lol)
- Tyranny is bad. Tyranny is any individual or a group sets public policy that interferes with everyone else's (or some else's) right to self-determination without considering the non-aggression principle.
- Tyranny can only be understood in terms of its direction of power.
- Self-determination, empowerment, or freedom/liberty is the ability to make decisions for only one's self.
- Power is the ability to make decisions that affect other people.
- Tyranny can be prevented by distributing power as equally amongst a population as possible. Power may be delegated for convenience and practical reasons, but shall remain checked and balanced via distribution and oversight at every level of governance.
- Perfect balance of power in a large enough society is (probably) not practically possible, but should be pursued as a goal. (Perfect balance of power is one way to describe anarchy.)
- Balance of power is constantly under attack by those who want more than their share of power. Balance needs to be reconsidered and corrected often.

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#USPol #libertarian

Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Ultralibertarianism / Wokitarian Manifesto

Pt. 3

- Any governmental policy shall be considered fair and just if it follows empiricism, rationality, and the non-aggression principle, and if it maximizes the distribution of power within limits of practicality.
- Microtyrannies enforce macrotyranny.
- Bigoty is microtyranny.
- Abuse in personal relationships is microtyranny.
- Tyranny can come from the government. Or it can come from religions, corporations, non-corporate businesses, non-profits, institutions, cultural pressures, bigotry, family systems, or even individuals, at every level and within every segment of a society. (The ultimate tyranny by individual over a society is called a "monarchy".)
- In order to avoid bigotry, biases in data and reasoning must be constantly considered, avoided, and compensated for.
- No one is free unless all are free.
- Just because you are (or perceive yourself to be) free does not mean anyone else is free. (A king holds ultimate freedom but does not live in a free country. Members of a mob are consenting with each other but their minority target is not.)
- Assisting others less powerful than yourself to become and remain free is insurance against tyranny.
- When considering conflicts in the non-aggression principle, favor should fall towards the person or group with the least amount of power. ("Least power" is defined as the person who has the least ability to make decisions for themselves or the group, or the least ability to consent to a decision or act that affects them.)
- In the event that parties of similar power may have opposing interests, or wish to make personal decisions that affect others without their consent, fair and equal compromise must be sought.

[Further bullets added below.]

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Ok here is a very rough draft of my upgrade to libertarianism. It needs work, but I just wanted to put it out there before it gets buried in my graveyard of lost projects. Also the name is funny but not practical, so I hope I will think of something... a little easier to type in a phone and use in a sentence.

Ultralibertarianism / Wokitarian Manifesto

Pt. 1

- Subjective reality exists, BUT—
- The only fair and just way to create policy that affects more than one person is to base it on empiricism and rationality; that is, evidence and reason.
- The nonaggression principle states that force or fraud should not be initiated. If one initiates force or fraud, one is allowing that force and fraud may be used against them by others in defense, to any degree as necessary to subdue further initiations of force or fraud.
- Initiation of force or fraud is the basis of tyranny. Defense against force and fraud is defense of liberty.
- The individual is the smallest possible unit of power which can be rationally and empirically defined.
- Individuals possess certain core "rights" which shall not be violated by other individuals, organizations, or the government. These include freedom of expression, freedom to identify, freedom of conviction, right to due process, etc.
- Individual rights must be equally applied to all, elsewise they are not rights but privileges (private laws).
- If individual rights are equally and truly protected in a society, (not just on paper but in effect), then by extension, the rights of all minority and marginalized groups will be protected.
- If minority or marginalized groups are, by evidence, NOT being protected, then individual rights are also not being protected.
- Rights shall not be violated unless said individual violates the rights of others through initiation of force or fraud.
- Then those rights shall only be impeded to the minimum extent as is necessary to prevent further violations of the rights of others.

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#USPol #libertarian

Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Ultralibertarianism / Wokitarian Manifesto

Pt. 2

- Consent is defined as more than one empowered individuals agreeing to an act.
- Decisions that affect only one person should only be implemented by that one person, only towards themself. We shall call this "self-determination."
- In order to avoid tyranny, decisions that affect more than one person (aka "public policy") must be subject to, and guided by, empiricism, rationality, and the non-aggression principle. (ERNAP? lol)
- Tyranny is bad. Tyranny is any individual or a group sets public policy that interferes with everyone else's (or some else's) right to self-determination without considering the non-aggression principle.
- Tyranny can only be understood in terms of its direction of power.
- Self-determination, empowerment, or freedom/liberty is the ability to make decisions for only one's self.
- Power is the ability to make decisions that affect other people.
- Tyranny can be prevented by distributing power as equally amongst a population as possible. Power may be delegated for convenience and practical reasons, but shall remain checked and balanced via distribution and oversight at every level of governance.
- Perfect balance of power in a large enough society is (probably) not practically possible, but should be pursued as a goal. (Perfect balance of power is one way to describe anarchy.)
- Balance of power is constantly under attack by those who want more than their share of power. Balance needs to be reconsidered and corrected often.

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#USPol #libertarian

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

BRB I'm fixing libertarianism. Got a manifesto to write.

#USPol #libertarian

Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Ok here is a very rough draft of my upgrade to libertarianism. It needs work, but I just wanted to put it out there before it gets buried in my graveyard of lost projects. Also the name is funny but not practical, so I hope I will think of something... a little easier to type in a phone and use in a sentence.

Ultralibertarianism / Wokitarian Manifesto

Pt. 1

- Subjective reality exists, BUT—
- The only fair and just way to create policy that affects more than one person is to base it on empiricism and rationality; that is, evidence and reason.
- The nonaggression principle states that force or fraud should not be initiated. If one initiates force or fraud, one is allowing that force and fraud may be used against them by others in defense, to any degree as necessary to subdue further initiations of force or fraud.
- Initiation of force or fraud is the basis of tyranny. Defense against force and fraud is defense of liberty.
- The individual is the smallest possible unit of power which can be rationally and empirically defined.
- Individuals possess certain core "rights" which shall not be violated by other individuals, organizations, or the government. These include freedom of expression, freedom to identify, freedom of conviction, right to due process, etc.
- Individual rights must be equally applied to all, elsewise they are not rights but privileges (private laws).
- If individual rights are equally and truly protected in a society, (not just on paper but in effect), then by extension, the rights of all minority and marginalized groups will be protected.
- If minority or marginalized groups are, by evidence, NOT being protected, then individual rights are also not being protected.
- Rights shall not be violated unless said individual violates the rights of others through initiation of force or fraud.
- Then those rights shall only be impeded to the minimum extent as is necessary to prevent further violations of the rights of others.

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#USPol #libertarian

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Move over Ayn Rand, I'm about to drop a new political ideology.

#USPol #libertarian

Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

BRB I'm fixing libertarianism. Got a manifesto to write.

#USPol #libertarian

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Honestly? And I'm about to get real clear on this and I can't believe it's taken me this long to unpack this particular thing.

The real reason I left libertarianism — the reason underlying every single position I re-evaluated that took me further from modern libertarianism — is its racism. That's the variable that I took seriously that, using exactly the same formulas, led me to different conclusions than the current libertarian core.

It took me too long to notice that this is the difference. Like I've been saying, I can argue every single one of my current progressive stances using libertarian first principles. I said it was data, that's the difference, that I was willing to revisit the inputs and update them with real data instead of mere claims about data, and that's still true.

But what's different about the data, Greg?

*goose chases*

WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THE DATA?

Yeah, Greg, it's racism.

Funny how the libertarian formulas still work, but when you're willing to set aside bias and look at ALL the data — say historical events that libertarians don't talk about for some reason, or statistics libertarians lie about for some reason, or are willing to champion the rights of people who libertarians dismiss for some reason — you come to different conclusions about the source of tyranny and how to fight it.

And what is that "some reason"?

It's intrinsic bias, largely racial but also based on class, gender, and ableism.

I just unpacked that stuff, is all. One might say... I'm Woke. Wokitarian. Liberwokian.

Or, borrowing from Disco Elysium's political naming conventions, I'm practicing ultralibertarianism while y'all are still playing with the Fisher Price® My First Freedom™ set.

#USPol #libertarian

Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Move over Ayn Rand, I'm about to drop a new political ideology.

#USPol #libertarian

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Honestly? And I'm about to get real clear on this and I can't believe it's taken me this long to unpack this particular thing.

The real reason I left libertarianism — the reason underlying every single position I re-evaluated that took me further from modern libertarianism — is its racism. That's the variable that I took seriously that, using exactly the same formulas, led me to different conclusions than the current libertarian core.

It took me too long to notice that this is the difference. Like I've been saying, I can argue every single one of my current progressive stances using libertarian first principles. I said it was data, that's the difference, that I was willing to revisit the inputs and update them with real data instead of mere claims about data, and that's still true.

But what's different about the data, Greg?

*goose chases*

WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THE DATA?

Yeah, Greg, it's racism.

Funny how the libertarian formulas still work, but when you're willing to set aside bias and look at ALL the data — say historical events that libertarians don't talk about for some reason, or statistics libertarians lie about for some reason, or are willing to champion the rights of people who libertarians dismiss for some reason — you come to different conclusions about the source of tyranny and how to fight it.

And what is that "some reason"?

It's intrinsic bias, largely racial but also based on class, gender, and ableism.

I just unpacked that stuff, is all. One might say... I'm Woke. Wokitarian. Liberwokian.

Or, borrowing from Disco Elysium's political naming conventions, I'm practicing ultralibertarianism while y'all are still playing with the Fisher Price® My First Freedom™ set.

#USPol #libertarian

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Fucking CATO with their little pocket Constitutions for whites only.

#USPol #libertarian

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Mx. Luna Corbden
@corbden@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

I want to grab CATO by the lapels and say YOU DID THIS!

With your racist-flavored libertarianism, allowing yourself to be led around by fiscal conservatives on the right — honeypotting, distracting, then disinforming true antiauthoritarians, and getting them to comply with the fascitarianism instead. Got them to vote for Hitler II instead of the icky Democrat. And now the libertarians are pwned before the fight has even started and aren't here to help us throw off the real tyrants.

You created a network of betrayal to liberty. This is on you, CATO. I hope Heritage keeps you warm enough at night until they make a phone call and Trump comes for you next.

#USPol #libertarian https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/post/3ls4qlotehs2x

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Nonilex
@Nonilex@masto.ai  ·  activity timestamp 7 months ago

…#Musk held forth on the patio on a variety of topics: his visit to the US–Mexico border; the war in Ukraine; his frustrations w/govt #regulations hindering his rocket company, #SpaceX; & Ramaswamy’s highest priority, the dismantling of the #FederalBureaucracy.

Musk made clear that he saw the gutting of that bureaucracy as primarily a #technology challenge. He told the party of around 20 that when he overhauled Twitter,…the key was gaining access to the…servers.

#law#Technocracy#Trump#USpol

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@Nonilex@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 months ago

Wouldn’t it be great, #Musk offered, if he had #access to the #computers of the #FederalGovernment?

Just give him the passwords, he said jocularly, & he would make the govt fit & trim.

What started as musings at a dinner party evolved into a #radical takeover of the #FederalBureaucracy. It was driven with a frenetic focus by Musk, who channeled his #libertarian impulses & resentment of #regulatory #oversight of his vast #business holdings into a singular position of #influence.

#law#Trump

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