@GrapheneOS @attilax @LearnToLivePrivate @RustRaven @jmoupah @Yrrussaj @sebsauvage @jolla Hey Graphene OS folks.

First, it's really great that you guys have created a security focused deGoogled Android operating system.

Given the problems of American big tech, I applaud you for creating an alternative.

So full credit where credit is due.

That being said, constantly badmouthing every other non-Apple and non-Google smartphone maker and operating system is not a good look.

And jumping into any thread on Mastodon where there's a mention of another alternative smartphone maker or OS to badmouth them is not a good look.

You say Jolla is no good. SailfishOS is no good. Fairphone is no good. Murena is no good. CalyxOS is no good. Dumbphones are no good.

I'd imagine you'd probably win more people over if you talked more about why people should choose Graphene instead why they shouldn't choose one of the others.

Because right now, there are tradeoffs with every mobile OS.

That includes Graphene.

For example, there are people for whom limiting their exposure to Google and Apple is more important than choosing the most locked down option available.

For such people, needing to buy a Google Pixel phone to run Graphene is a massive negative.

That's even if the Google Pixel is the best hardware from a security perspective.

And in that case, yeah there are other options that may be a better fit for those people.

There's another issue.

There seems to be many Reddit threads and YouTube videos and blogs out there from people who were enthusiastic about Graphene, but have soured on it.

And the funny thing is there's a pattern to it. "Cult-like" and "toxic" seems to be phrases that tend to be used a lot.

I've also noticed a recurring pattern you put for why the other alternatives are bad is because people connected with those businesses or companies badmouth Graphene.

It seems to me like Graphene constantly bags those other projects. When anyone connected with those projects responds, that response is presented by you guys as evidence of bullying and harassment, without that context.

And the recurring line about how people should just stick with iOS or Google Android if they don't choose Graphene? Just shameful. And completely misses the point of why some people are looking for alternative platforms in the first place.

And the more people who choose an alternative OS, the more normal it becomes to do it, which ultimately leads to more people looking at alternatives like Graphene.

#Android #Jolla #SailfishOS #AOSP #Graphene #GrapheneOS #Murena #Calyx #CalyxOS #Linux

@GrapheneOS @attilax @LearnToLivePrivate @RustRaven @jmoupah @Yrrussaj @sebsauvage @jolla Hey Graphene OS folks.

First, it's really great that you guys have created a security focused deGoogled Android operating system.

Given the problems of American big tech, I applaud you for creating an alternative.

So full credit where credit is due.

That being said, constantly badmouthing every other non-Apple and non-Google smartphone maker and operating system is not a good look.

And jumping into any thread on Mastodon where there's a mention of another alternative smartphone maker or OS to badmouth them is not a good look.

You say Jolla is no good. SailfishOS is no good. Fairphone is no good. Murena is no good. CalyxOS is no good. Dumbphones are no good.

I'd imagine you'd probably win more people over if you talked more about why people should choose Graphene instead why they shouldn't choose one of the others.

Because right now, there are tradeoffs with every mobile OS.

That includes Graphene.

For example, there are people for whom limiting their exposure to Google and Apple is more important than choosing the most locked down option available.

For such people, needing to buy a Google Pixel phone to run Graphene is a massive negative.

That's even if the Google Pixel is the best hardware from a security perspective.

And in that case, yeah there are other options that may be a better fit for those people.

There's another issue.

There seems to be many Reddit threads and YouTube videos and blogs out there from people who were enthusiastic about Graphene, but have soured on it.

And the funny thing is there's a pattern to it. "Cult-like" and "toxic" seems to be phrases that tend to be used a lot.

I've also noticed a recurring pattern you put for why the other alternatives are bad is because people connected with those businesses or companies badmouth Graphene.

It seems to me like Graphene constantly bags those other projects. When anyone connected with those projects responds, that response is presented by you guys as evidence of bullying and harassment, without that context.

And the recurring line about how people should just stick with iOS or Google Android if they don't choose Graphene? Just shameful. And completely misses the point of why some people are looking for alternative platforms in the first place.

And the more people who choose an alternative OS, the more normal it becomes to do it, which ultimately leads to more people looking at alternatives like Graphene.

#Android #Jolla #SailfishOS #AOSP #Graphene #GrapheneOS #Murena #Calyx #CalyxOS #Linux

@forteller running #CalyxOS but it's on pause for now. It was really easy to install via their installer.

The #FOSDEM FOSS on Mobile devroom schedule is out!

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/track/foss-on-mobile/

It's going to be a great day of talks on AOSP, Mobile Linux and more; covering the full stack from SoCs to app ecosystems.

14 full length talks, 7 lightning talks, 23 speakers.

#fosdem26 #FossOnMobile #AOSP #Android #CalyxOS #OpenHarmony #postmarketOS #Phosh #SailfishOS #Gnomeonmobile #LinuxOnMoble #MobileLinux

The #FOSDEM FOSS on Mobile devroom schedule is out!

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/track/foss-on-mobile/

It's going to be a great day of talks on AOSP, Mobile Linux and more; covering the full stack from SoCs to app ecosystems.

14 full length talks, 7 lightning talks, 23 speakers.

#fosdem26 #FossOnMobile #AOSP #Android #CalyxOS #OpenHarmony #postmarketOS #Phosh #SailfishOS #Gnomeonmobile #LinuxOnMoble #MobileLinux

Somehow I had missed the November @calyxos status update:
https://calyxos.org/news/2025/11/10/calyxos-progress/

Apparently, they are:

- finalizing the design of a Hardware Security Module (HSM) signing solution

- finalizing the detailed provisioning plan for the signing process

- trying to figure out how to sustainably access and publish OS security patches in the face of #Google's meddling and gradual closing of Android code.

Also, they are hiring:
https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/calyxinstitute

#FuckGoogle #InfoSec #CalyxOS

What a disaster of a week I picked to take off and the only week I could get off from work too. Oncall next to boot. My Wife breaks her foot and insists on going to work so I'm now a chauffeur, My youngest daughter who is expecting calls at the back of 5am to say she's going into labour so can I take our Grandson. My God I need back to work already.
Anyway our eldest daughter has taken Leo for me for the day so I'm going to try flashing #IodeOS over my Fairphone 4 #CalyxOS . Wish me luck as I don't seem to have any LOL.
Sorry moan over I'm just tired and was hoping for a bit of chill time before being oncall again.

so, while there were other things that influenced my decision to resign from #calyx, in the end, the biggest were the on-going outrageous behavior coming out of the engineering department, and a failure of leadership to do anything meaningful about it. although i deeply respect the #calyxos team and the many great folks at the institute, unfortunately, until/unless something is done, i cannot support calyx, and i cannot recommend donating to them right now. (9/9)

so, while there were other things that influenced my decision to resign from #calyx, in the end, the biggest were the on-going outrageous behavior coming out of the engineering department, and a failure of leadership to do anything meaningful about it. although i deeply respect the #calyxos team and the many great folks at the institute, unfortunately, until/unless something is done, i cannot support calyx, and i cannot recommend donating to them right now. (9/9)

none of this even delves into the #calyx engineering director's endless gaslighting, predictable derailing of discussions and decision-making, hoarding of access and information, attempts to delay / sabotage the revival of #calyxos, and apparent eagerness to direct $10,000's of member donations toward goods and services from the warmongering likes of AWS and thales. those would warrant threads of their own. (8/9)

some may think, "i don't mind if #calyx moves my name, email, address, etc to vultr. it's not like it's AWS" - or "this is why i never share any personal info that i can't afford to be leaked anyway". but in my mind, given that calyx has hosted its own services for years - VPN, tor exit nodes, #calyxos release server, etc - i think people have come to expect this and to hold them to a higher standard for data handling and transparency. it's your data. shouldn't you know who has it? (7/9)

What with my Fairphone 4 just receiving it's last #CalyxOS update for a while and when they do start again it has to be a full reinstall, So I'm wondering has any UK folk successfully got UK banking apps running in #Waydroid using a #PostMarketOS device ?? If so which apps work ??

I'm absolutely not bothered about phone calls just data and I'm considering a Fairphone 5 as most things apart from audio seem to work already. I do have a OnePlus 6T too but haven't used it for a year or two.

Boosts appreciated and thank you ❤️

#MobileLinux

What with my Fairphone 4 just receiving it's last #CalyxOS update for a while and when they do start again it has to be a full reinstall, So I'm wondering has any UK folk successfully got UK banking apps running in #Waydroid using a #PostMarketOS device ?? If so which apps work ??

I'm absolutely not bothered about phone calls just data and I'm considering a Fairphone 5 as most things apart from audio seem to work already. I do have a OnePlus 6T too but haven't used it for a year or two.

Boosts appreciated and thank you ❤️

#MobileLinux

This week in #FDroid (TWIF) is live but late to toot:

* Slow updates? There's a reason, or 2️⃣
* Don't be surveilled, engage in our research 🔭
* Using #Calyx#CalyxOS? Read now! 💔
* #DeltaChat hits v2, #ArcaneChat soon™
* #NeoStore finally upgrades to Index-V2
* #NewPipe in your 🚗 ? Maybe...
* #Wesnoth is back 🐴 ⚔️
& 164 more updates
- 4 apps archived

Saturday reading break: https://f-droid.org/2025/08/07/twif.html

I'm debating on whether to move to GrapheneOS or, since their social media team attacked and "banned" me, and accused me of being some kind of spy because I mentioned CalyxOS in a comment, I may just use regular #Android and lock it down the best I can.

Link: https://calyxos.org/news/2025/08/01/a-letter-to-our-community/

#Security#Privacy