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Notes from the 2025-11-13 @socialcg Geosocial Task Force meeting
Notes from the 2025-11-13 @socialcg Geosocial Task Force meeting
Chewie
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Everyone, meet the "partner" working with SWICG and Social Web Foundation on the next generation of ActivityPub:
> Meta internally projected late last year that it would earn about 10% of its overall annual revenue – or $16 billion – from running advertising for scams and banned goods, internal company documents show.
> …Meta’s own research suggests its products have become a pillar of the global fraud economy. A May 2025 presentation by its safety staff estimated that the company’s platforms were involved in a third of all successful scams in the U.S.
> According to a December 2024 presentation, Meta’s user base is exposed to 22 billion organic scam attempts every day. That’s on top of the 15 billion scam ads presented to users daily.
> Every six months, Meta earns $3.5 billion from just the portion of scam ads that “present higher legal risk” […] That figure almost certainly exceeds “the cost of any regulatory settlement involving scam ads.” Rather than voluntarily agreeing to do more to vet advertisers, the same document states, the company’s leadership decided to act only in response to impending regulatory action.
#MetaOutOfSWICG #DefederateMeta #FediPact #Meta #Zuckerberg #Threads #Facebook #Instagram #SocialWebFoundation #SWICG
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Minutes from 6 November 2025 WG Meeting
Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.
- Julian (myself) and Ted ( @tallted@mastodon.social) began the session discussing moderation tools in USENET
- There are comparable systems to how the threadiverse propagates content. Messages are sent to a remote server who is then responsible for distribution.
- In relation to moderation, there was more ambiguity.
Everyone, meet the "partner" working with SWICG and Social Web Foundation on the next generation of ActivityPub:
> Meta internally projected late last year that it would earn about 10% of its overall annual revenue – or $16 billion – from running advertising for scams and banned goods, internal company documents show.
> …Meta’s own research suggests its products have become a pillar of the global fraud economy. A May 2025 presentation by its safety staff estimated that the company’s platforms were involved in a third of all successful scams in the U.S.
> According to a December 2024 presentation, Meta’s user base is exposed to 22 billion organic scam attempts every day. That’s on top of the 15 billion scam ads presented to users daily.
> Every six months, Meta earns $3.5 billion from just the portion of scam ads that “present higher legal risk” […] That figure almost certainly exceeds “the cost of any regulatory settlement involving scam ads.” Rather than voluntarily agreeing to do more to vet advertisers, the same document states, the company’s leadership decided to act only in response to impending regulatory action.
#MetaOutOfSWICG #DefederateMeta #FediPact #Meta #Zuckerberg #Threads #Facebook #Instagram #SocialWebFoundation #SWICG
September 2025 ForumWG Meeting
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held (today) on 4 September 2025.
Meeting link: https://meet.jit.si/ap-forum-wg
This month's meeting has no set agenda. Discussions will continue re: FEP 7888/f228 adoption and ongoing FEP drafts.
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held (today) on 4 September 2025.
Meeting link: https://meet.jit.si/ap-forum-wg
This month's meeting has no set agenda. Discussions will continue re: FEP 7888/f228 adoption and ongoing FEP drafts.
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In his recent FediCon talk, Evan Prodromou implicitly rationalized his collaboration with Meta by proclaiming, "you don't negotiate with friends". Maybe not, but you don't hand enemies the keys to your kingdom either, which is exactly what he has done by giving Meta seats at the table of the ActivityPub working group. And for that matter, accepting a relatively significant sum of money from those enemies to fund your foundation goes rather beyond the negotiation phase as well, does it not?
As it stands, we have a hostile element enmeshed in the development process which undergirds the entire network, all the while systematically violating every last consent boundary the fedi has defined and defended over the course of its history. This is a power imbalance so egregious and amoral that it negates the raison d'etre of the fediverse altogether. Meta must be removed from SWICG
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#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
Michael Downey 🧢
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The development process of the protocol is poisoned by the presence of Meta. Any significant revision the organization proposes will be perceived as an aspect of the Meta incursion, suspected and resisted, whatever its actual origin. The backlash to any perceived attempt by Meta to manipulate the backbone of the fedi could lead to an existential crisis.
Under these circumstances the only way to avoid such a backlash is to refrain from advancing protocol development at all, which is also unsustainable. The way out of this is the ejection of the Meta intruders from SWICG and any other working group which has an influence on the future of ActivityPub.
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#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
Michael Downey 🧢
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We already know that the Social Web Foundation and SWICG leadership will ignore the latest news of Meta's mass datacrime against the fediverse and continue enabling the parasitic Zuckerberg entity to influence the future of ActivityPub development by facilitating its presence on the W3C working group overseeing AP. This is not a sustainable arrangement.
There is absolutely no basis of trust whatsoever between the fediverse network of communities and Meta. The idea that representatives of this slimy fascist operation are insinuated into the organization shaping the next generation of the protocol underlying our network, while they simultaneously inflict nonconsenual predatory "AI" extractivism against us, is ludicrous and intolerable. This right here is the destruction of every single value the fediverse claims to stand for in one fell swoop.
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#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
The development process of the protocol is poisoned by the presence of Meta. Any significant revision the organization proposes will be perceived as an aspect of the Meta incursion, suspected and resisted, whatever its actual origin. The backlash to any perceived attempt by Meta to manipulate the backbone of the fedi could lead to an existential crisis.
Under these circumstances the only way to avoid such a backlash is to refrain from advancing protocol development at all, which is also unsustainable. The way out of this is the ejection of the Meta intruders from SWICG and any other working group which has an influence on the future of ActivityPub.
🧵 2/3
#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
In his recent FediCon talk, Evan Prodromou implicitly rationalized his collaboration with Meta by proclaiming, "you don't negotiate with friends". Maybe not, but you don't hand enemies the keys to your kingdom either, which is exactly what he has done by giving Meta seats at the table of the ActivityPub working group. And for that matter, accepting a relatively significant sum of money from those enemies to fund your foundation goes rather beyond the negotiation phase as well, does it not?
As it stands, we have a hostile element enmeshed in the development process which undergirds the entire network, all the while systematically violating every last consent boundary the fedi has defined and defended over the course of its history. This is a power imbalance so egregious and amoral that it negates the raison d'etre of the fediverse altogether. Meta must be removed from SWICG
🧵 3/3 end
#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
The development process of the protocol is poisoned by the presence of Meta. Any significant revision the organization proposes will be perceived as an aspect of the Meta incursion, suspected and resisted, whatever its actual origin. The backlash to any perceived attempt by Meta to manipulate the backbone of the fedi could lead to an existential crisis.
Under these circumstances the only way to avoid such a backlash is to refrain from advancing protocol development at all, which is also unsustainable. The way out of this is the ejection of the Meta intruders from SWICG and any other working group which has an influence on the future of ActivityPub.
🧵 2/3
#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
We already know that the Social Web Foundation and SWICG leadership will ignore the latest news of Meta's mass datacrime against the fediverse and continue enabling the parasitic Zuckerberg entity to influence the future of ActivityPub development by facilitating its presence on the W3C working group overseeing AP. This is not a sustainable arrangement.
There is absolutely no basis of trust whatsoever between the fediverse network of communities and Meta. The idea that representatives of this slimy fascist operation are insinuated into the organization shaping the next generation of the protocol underlying our network, while they simultaneously inflict nonconsenual predatory "AI" extractivism against us, is ludicrous and intolerable. This right here is the destruction of every single value the fediverse claims to stand for in one fell swoop.
🧵 1/3
#DefederateMeta#FediPact#Meta#Zuckerberg#Threads#Facebook#Instagram#SocialWebFoundation#SWICG
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Agenda Prep for August 2025 ForumWG Meeting
Agenda preparation for the April ForumWG meeting can be found at this public link (anyone can make comments for review.)
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held on 7 August 2025.
We will be discussing:
- FEP 7888/f228 adoption update
- Context Inheritance
- Context Ownership
- Merging of Contexts (aka "cross-posting")
Agenda preparation for the April ForumWG meeting can be found at this public link (anyone can make comments for review.)
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held on 7 August 2025.
We will be discussing:
- FEP 7888/f228 adoption update
- Context Inheritance
- Context Ownership
- Merging of Contexts (aka "cross-posting")
Agenda Prep for August 2025 ForumWG Meeting
Agenda preparation for the April ForumWG meeting can be found at this public link (anyone can make comments for review.)
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held on 7 August 2025.
We will be discussing:
- FEP 7888/f228 adoption update
- Context Inheritance
- Context Ownership
- Merging of Contexts (aka "cross-posting")
Agenda preparation for the April ForumWG meeting can be found at this public link (anyone can make comments for review.)
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held on 7 August 2025.
We will be discussing:
- FEP 7888/f228 adoption update
- Context Inheritance
- Context Ownership
- Merging of Contexts (aka "cross-posting")
Notes from the 2025-06-12 Geosocial Task Force meeting
The geosocial task force in the W3C Social Web Incubator Community Group meets today at 19:00 CEST / 13:00 EDT.
Join if you would like to discuss details related to representing location on the social web. @herebox is leading the writing of an explainer for the most common location-related usecases.
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ed630a3d-7581-4053-9978-75949ad42f2a/20250612T130000/
Notes from the 2025-06-12 Geosocial Task Force meeting
The geosocial task force in the W3C Social Web Incubator Community Group meets today at 19:00 CEST / 13:00 EDT.
Join if you would like to discuss details related to representing location on the social web. @herebox is leading the writing of an explainer for the most common location-related usecases.
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ed630a3d-7581-4053-9978-75949ad42f2a/20250612T130000/