I thought about those too, going completely the opposite direction. My personal dream is to have enough time to build out the firewall to serve obvious script-kiddie hackers with 1TB zip bombs.

@tim_lavoie @algernon

@technocrow This is actually really comforting, because it means that I'm not necessarily failing artists if I don't completely solve online discovery.

I *am* super curious about ways that we could do better. For instance, do you see ways we could make online/Fediverse tools to help local bands build better in-person relationships and local word-of-mouth?

@bloodlessgirls Ok. Yours should count as TWO votes :)

@darkwolf Yes. I completely agree. There's no question to me that people should get to choose how visible they are online. The bare minimum for me would be requiring an opt-in before allowing LLM scrapers on any personal pages.

But the way this poll is going (currently ~70% in favor of a mandatory, hard block) it's likely I'll just save myself the development work and not change a thing :)

@defaultmediatransmitter

Yes, I did ask 😊

And, I really see Bandwagon as being owned by the community. I am the hands that make it happen, but the artists on the site are the head and the heart, and their voice matters most.

So, "success" means making the musicians who use Bandwagon successful - in whatever way they define success.

@theeclecticdyslexic

Yes, continuing to block LLMs would probably save me on hosting costs. Though, cleaning up my own error logs would probably have a bigger impact, at least for now :)

Another thing is the development time. A hard block at the beginning of every request is pretty cheap. Looking up individuals' custom rules is more expensive, and would take some work to get right.

Hence the call to the community to see how important this feature actually is to them.

@johnnythan Yes. I hear you on this.

@scottjenson That's my thought. It's more work, but seems like the best compromise. Something like:

Y/N - Allow Search Engines to Index My Posts?

(if yes:)

Y/N - Allow AIs to Index text content
Y/N - Allow AIs to Index media attachments (images, audio) videos)

@benpate @FediThing folks who use search engines like Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc are seeing the AI result ay the top, before the search results

@FediThing I don't have real numbers to say yes or no. And, this probably varies widely among different groups.

As others have mentioned on this thread, Google is effectively an AI-first search engine already. And soon, I'd expect that already-blurry line to get even more difficult to find.

I *can* imagine someone saying "Hey {whatever}, give me links to something I haven't heard before..." and I want Bandwagon artists (who choose it) to have a chance of being in that list.

@FediThing @benpate that is the problem, isn't it? It's not like it's a real choice. There's no future referral from the scrape.