@onepict I picked "Needs some work", because things are definitely better than they used to be, but it feels like we solved a lot of the overt surface problems without really doing much about the deeper rot, and this is especially a problem visibly coming due lately with so many FOSS devs coming out of the fascism closet.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about (CW Ginger Bill, but not the section I'm referencing, from 1:46:25-1:48:59):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpj6r6CjJf8&t=6385

From a present day perspective, this study was rife with consent issues that feel eerily familiar to how LLM trainers reason about ethics. Now this was done by mostly white guys, to mostly white guys, so on paper, this isn't obviously a sexist act. But it *is* primarily women who would interpret this as a deeper signal about consent beliefs, and be skeeved out, and either leave or complain.

We might have a lot fewer (and easier to block) obvious trolls today, but we still have sooo much shit like this embedded in the culture.