@firefoxwebdevs @heptapodEnthusiast @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt you could save us all a lot of time by stating in the original post a list of *very* common responses to Firefox AI initiatives which are "never going to be actioned"
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@fasterandworse @heptapodEnthusiast @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt Did you seriously believe that unshipping a largely well-regarded feature like translations was on the table for Firefox 148?
@firefoxwebdevs @heptapodEnthusiast @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt the missing option which you are responding to is "Missing option, if shouldn't be in the browser code in the first place. It should be an add-on that the user has to explicitly install"
I've been following your responses because (correct me if I'm wrong) you have not addressed any of the "make them all add-ons" responses.
It has been repeated ad nauseam with good reason considering the opt-in/consent issue with AI features
@fasterandworse @heptapodEnthusiast @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt
Given the poll was about translations, the option you wanted would amount to unshipping a largely well-regarded feature.
Again, did you seriously and honestly believe that was on the table for Firefox 148?
@firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social @fasterandworse@hci.social @heptapodEnthusiast@mathstodon.xyz @nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe @davidgerard@circumstances.run @zzt@mas.to you have unshipped plenty of well-regarded Firefox features and associated products. I still miss Lockwise, despite the fact that every bug i filed with it (some of which prevented me from using it outright, on several devices) was marked not-planned.
so, yes, i think it's reasonable to expect Firefox to un-ship features like this.
so, yes, i think it's reasonable to expect Firefox to un-ship features like this.
@linear @davidgerard @fasterandworse @zzt @nuintari @heptapodEnthusiast @firefoxwebdevs the graveyard of abandoned/"unshipped" Mozilla/Firefox products is nearly as big as Google's. So the "we can't unship things"-take is really revisionist, bordering on unhinged.
@gedankenstuecke @linear @fasterandworse @zzt @nuintari @heptapodEnthusiast @firefoxwebdevs i get the impression everyone else in this thread knows much more about firefox's history than Jake
@firefoxwebdevs @fasterandworse @heptapodEnthusiast @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt Honestly, why not? You've done it before. Pocket, classic browser extensions, Chatzilla, a usable address bar, the option to switch back to a usable address bar, plugins, ... all "unshipped" and that's just off the top of my head.
@firefoxwebdevs @fasterandworse @heptapodEnthusiast @nuintari @zzt your response again fails to address the many "make them all add-ons" responses.
