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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@secbox @dat also, Signal is super usable including by abject non techies who just install the app. That bit is of towering importance. People can and will infosec mall ninja to their heart's content, but we're talking about real life danger to real non-techie users here.

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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@secbox @dat my real world use case was the El Salvador bitcoin story, where the danger was sufficient that some of my contact have fled the country

of course El Salvador then used Pegasus on a pile of journalists, which fucks even Signal, and .sv is poor so getting a burner is expensive

nevertheless, Signal was absolutely up to the task of journalism in danger, 100% would recommend to everybody ('cos the bigger the network the better) as just a daily messenger

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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@secbox @dat my real world use case was the El Salvador bitcoin story, where the danger was sufficient that some of my contact have fled the country

of course El Salvador then used Pegasus on a pile of journalists, which fucks even Signal, and .sv is poor so getting a burner is expensive

nevertheless, Signal was absolutely up to the task of journalism in danger, 100% would recommend to everybody ('cos the bigger the network the better) as just a daily messenger

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David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@davidgerard @secbox @dat

Signal was absolutely up to the task of journalism in danger, 100% would recommend to everybody ('cos the bigger the network the better) as just a daily messenger

This is really critical. The privacy of Signal users is significantly enhanced by the fact that tens of millions of people are sending mundane traffic via the same servers. Doing traffic analysis on this is hard.

It's also helped by the fact that this includes the people using it for sensitive things. If you use Signal for talking to journalists and WhatsApp for talking to everyone else, it's easy for a passive adversary to see that you're doing something unusual.

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Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC
@LordCaramac@discordian.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@david_chisnall @davidgerard @secbox @dat I use Signal to talk to everyone who's got it, except for those who also have Matrix, in which case I use that instead. And unfortunately, I still have to use WhatsApp because far too many people just can't be bothered to use anything else.

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