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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

10 months ago, a company across the world put my neighbor's access to medical care at risk, giving us 2 weeks notice that software behind our 40 electric car chargers would be shut down.

This is the story of how my neighborhood broke free from this potential disaster.

https://natematias.com/portfolio/2025-08-22-unchaining-from-broken-software-tethers/

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Al
@mral@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias
Thank you for an article to shows both the problem and shows a possible solution and prevention.

We all can see problems and a lot of authors have become good at describing the problems.

We need more folks like you that also work on and describe solutions.

#democracy is more than voting.
#freeopensource #floss #foss
Free/Libre Open Source Software and hardware

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Cristin Pescosolido
@rocketdyke@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias Fortunately, you didn't void your warranty by opening the old juice chargers, as that type of warranty enforcement has been illegal in the US for several years :)
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erebion
@erebion@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias Well done!

It's always great when the community saves devices from trash that are perfectly fine, I'm so glad I don't use any tethered technology, as this would just be a nightmare... having a devicre in perfectly usable condition suddenly becoming unusable, for no real reason other than some idiot deciding their not rich enough.

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U.Lancier
@Ulan_KA@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias I wonder if anyone invoked @pluralistic to see this.
It reminds me foremost of his novella „Unauthorized Bread“ but it is also close to a lot of stories about his pet peeve and created neologism #enshittification
It happens with many products, especially with Internet enabled ones.

Well done and I hope you'll inspire all the other customers with „juiceboxes“!

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cyclical_obsessive
@cyclical_obsessive@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias Great reading about your community success. Your presentation of the various aspects of the problem specifics and the social impacts is really eloquent.

As a retired software engineer addicted to understanding the technology but never able to understand the business side of my industry, this anecdote lays bare my fears and pessimism for our future.

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Clifton Royston
@CliftonR@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias

This is also why I buy the non-"smart", non-programmable, non-WiFi version of something whenever possible.

You see, I *have* a unsmart Juicebox - it charges my Nissan Leaf.

When the company changed hands, I didn't need to know anything about it. When this software ultimatum went out, I never heard about it, as I had never used their website or services. They likely don't have my email or know I exist, and that suits me.

It's still running just fine. May it run many years more.

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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@CliftonR I'm glad to hear it's working out for you!
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Janet Vertesi
@cyberlyra@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias
So eloquently written. And I love how we come to the same.conclusions about this stuff-- the only way forward is working together.

it sounds like you have developed a new appreciation for hardware too? Yayyyy! I looooove opening boxes.

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WokStation
@wokstation@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias this really reminded me of Unauthorised Bread by Cory Doctorow!
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/
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Programmer 832-529 🍅
@smallsees@social.dropbear.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias

@pluralistic in case you've not seen this before or not been bombarded already (sorry if you have), I thought you might be interested.

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Cory Doctorow
@pluralistic@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@smallsees @natematias it's a great piece, and I'm guest lecturing to his class in a couple weeks!
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stony kark
@aapis@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias people who can afford, and currently own, EVs are not at risk of losing access to medical care by anyone’s actions but their own. It sounds like people in this community are victims of capitalism’s demand for infinite profit and faced a future where they might have to reevaluate the choices they made and consider alternatives they find distasteful. Thats annoying and inconvenient, not literally dangerous. To suggest otherwise is quite the leap.
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@aapis uh hi to you too, from our coop.
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stony kark
@aapis@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias would the article have been less dumb if I’d said hi first
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Johnny Than
@johnnythan@tuebingen.network replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias This is #solarpunk. Thanks for sharing.
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Dan :volvo:
@dan@weird.autos replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias I’m in the market for a charger. I want to get a dumb one for this reason, but my state has a $250 incentive for smart chargers. 😔
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@dan Perhaps check to see if your state will fund OpenEVSE chargers? And if they're not on the list, send them my post and see if they will add them!

https://store.openevse.com/collections/all-products

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outie
@outie@slime.global replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias it's almost like running critical infrastructure with a profit motive is a terrible idea that most of us have just been conditioned from birth to accept as How Things Are
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katzenberger
@katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias

What a cool story about taking things into your own hands. Congratulations!

This was a very uplifting and inspiring read.

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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@katzenberger thank you; it means a lot to hear you say it!
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Jack William Bell
@jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias

This is like a case study in #enshittification – and in the power of collective action to solve the problem.

Tagging @pluralistic

(Also note: The author doesn't say, but most likely the fix required violating the DCMA. Which is another reason why that particular legislation needs killing.)

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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@jackwilliambell I do not want to invoke Beetlejuice by saying his name too loudly, but the neighborhood felt pretty confident about our course of action after consulting lawyers.
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Yvonne ‘looks undocumented’
@grammasaurus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias well done! I love stories like this
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@grammasaurus thank you! Your encouragement means a lot, after a long ordeal!
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Yvonne ‘looks undocumented’
@grammasaurus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias My pleasure!

I think my community would react similarly. We have a lot of knowledgeable people who are willing to work together and between us we have a wide variety of skills.

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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@grammasaurus that I think is one of the true meanings of wealth. <3
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Yvonne ‘looks undocumented’
@grammasaurus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias an excellent definition!
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Andrew Ault
@andrewault@twit.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias

What an inspiring story! Well done!

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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@andrewault thank you!
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coldclimate
@coldclimate@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias tremendous work. Thank you for writing it up
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Iwillyeah
@Iwillyeah@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias our Sony bravia worked perfectly, until the company stopped issuing updates for that model and over the course of 2 or 3 months it became unusable. I'm terrified an electric car, which I could realistically only afford second hand, would have the same issue. I'm desperate to see European legislators catch up with and, dare to dream, get ahead of the issue.
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griffey
@Griffey@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias This is a fantastic story, and a wonderful example of why open hardware is so important.
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@Griffey thanks Jason! My feeling toward this story is mostly exhaustion and relief, so I appreciate the encouragement!
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griffey
@Griffey@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias i have a soft spot for open hardware, as you may remember. 😄 I've applied recently for a position relating to open science hardware, which i still have my fingers crossed for. Would be an exciting opportunity.
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@Griffey YES! And good luck with the possible gig!
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Our "Juicebox" chargers, like many other digital products, were "smart" or "tethered products." On one hand, we got updates from the company. Software was also taken away.

As such products become the norm, similar emergencies are happening in other areas, from medical devices and appliances to cars. So we can expect more panics when companies go bankrupt or cut costs.

The shares ideas from experts on how developers and policymakers can manage product end of life better.

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numanumayey
@breathOfLife@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias

> On one hand, we got updates from the company. Software was also taken away.

do the chargers have features (as in, PROPER features) that require an internet connection to use?

if not, then why does it need an internet connection? because you only really need updates to patch security holes.

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fglc2
@fglc2@ruby.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias that’s a familiar story - I had an email a few months ago from a manufacturer saying they were withdrawing support for a charger I had bought. As it happened the hardware wasn’t the best and had died a few months prior so I had already replaced it.

It would however continued to work in “dumb” mode (no scheduling, rfid access restrictions etc - just plug and charge) which I believe is a requirement over here (part of OCCP).

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fglc2
@fglc2@ruby.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias the bad side of that is that those regulations around security that then push you in the opposite direction in terms of repairability. For example earlier versions of the charger I use had a raspberry pi has the control electronics & that was considered bad because you could crack open the case and load new software onto it. Now it’s some proprietary board - doesn’t feel like progress to me (maybe it’s better in other ways but it’s definitely less open)
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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

I'm grateful to the hundreds of hobbyists & open hardware devs who worked together to save countless chargers from the landfill.

This summer, my neighbors & I replaced the boards of our 40 chargers with OpenEVSE hardware, and we're no longer at the same level of risk, phew!

These kinds of stories almost never end well, so I'm grateful that this one did!

A carport with a car charging cable stands behind the yellow and green leaves of a birch tree.
A carport with a car charging cable stands behind the yellow and green leaves of a birch tree.
A carport with a car charging cable stands behind the yellow and green leaves of a birch tree.
Hands hold a box and unscrew electronics board from a rectangular box that holds the internal components of an electric vehicle charger.
Hands hold a box and unscrew electronics board from a rectangular box that holds the internal components of an electric vehicle charger.
Hands hold a box and unscrew electronics board from a rectangular box that holds the internal components of an electric vehicle charger.
A group of people stand around a table, replacing hardware from electric vehicle chargers under the wooden roof of a carport, with trees in the background.
A group of people stand around a table, replacing hardware from electric vehicle chargers under the wooden roof of a carport, with trees in the background.
A group of people stand around a table, replacing hardware from electric vehicle chargers under the wooden roof of a carport, with trees in the background.
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Asbestos
@Asbestos@pnw.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@natematias
Yeah it's cool to be able to see what charge your car is from anywhere. But at what cost? I don't need my washing machine or refrigerator to be online.

when I started reading this and saw "Finger Lakes" I knew this had to be in the Ithaca area.

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J. Nathan Matias 🦣
@natematias@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Many thanks to the neighborhood charge team (especially Jeff), @show, OpenEVSE, @ConsumerReports, the Harvard Cyberlaw Clinic, and so many others, for creativity, collaboration, and advice.

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