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Cory Doctorow
@pluralistic@mamot.fr  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

"Half of all consumer spending is coming from the top 10 percent, and these price-insensitive customers are absorbing higher inflation. Low-income consumers, by contrast, are taking on more credit card debt, the Boston Federal Reserve reports, because they cannot keep up with rising prices"

-What the Economy Really Looks Like, David Dayen

https://prospect.org/economy/2025-08-19-what-us-economy-really-looks-like/

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gb
@gb@gts.manyworlds.fit replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
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Oh hey it's that exact phenomenon that my economics professor told me wasn't a major factor in price discovery!
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Deb Nam-Krane
@dnkboston@apobangpo.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic One of my children was explaining to me that they're just shrugging about their credit cards, and expecting to die with debt. And tells me everyone in their generation is accepting the same thing. Trying to explain that if they're living paycheck to paycheck, it's a recipe for ruin, but it's not a lecture since I don't blame them--everything is unaffordable. I can help them once their younger siblings are out of college, but that's not everyone's case.
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Jeff Craig
@foxxtrot@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic As one of those able to absorb that inflation, I'm still pissed about it, less for myself than for the people I know who can't afford this shit.

But too many people in my socio-economic strata have never experienced being broke, let alone actually poor, and are unable to understand how much closer we are from being financially shattered than being as rich as our bosses.

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eswillwalker
@ELS@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic Interesting analogy of the Trumpers being hedge fund managers: buying up a great US economy, selling off the profitable parts, wringing the last dollar out of the remaining bits, and then flinging off the resulting husk for someone else to deal with.
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MillenniumMacs
@millenniummacs@bitbang.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic @shyra In b 4 the

“Thos is a good thing. The wealthy are spending a lot of money, and it’s being passed down through our economy. This is a great time for our economy, everyone is benefitting”

It’s vacuous BS of course. The only thing that trickles down from the wealthy in a trickle-down economy is the bullshit they spout to make it seem like everything is fine.

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Dusk To Don :raccoon:
@dusk@todon.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic

From your article:

> The only area where this investment retrenchment and uncertainty is not in evidence comes from the insane capital expenditures for AI computing power, which is propping up the economy almost by itself.

@brianmerchant had a great appearance on KQED's Forum.

They discussed, among other things, that aspect of things, the potential bubble in which the US economy is being propped up by all of that capital flowing into data centers.

https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101910899/ai-reshapes-the-economy-and-roils-geopolitics-even-as-gpt-5-fizzles

Meanwhile, the good people over at It Could Happen Here dive into successful efforts by #noDesertDataCenter to block an Amazon data center in #Tuscon AZ of all places.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/how-tucson-beat-amazons-data-center-289418501/

#coolZoneMedia #ItCouldHappenHere

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tanavit
@tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic

If half of the customers failed to buy, the 10% will not be sufficient to sustain the economy.

And 90% is a big majority, if allowed to vote.

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mark
@ATLeagle@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago
@pluralistic im in that top 10%, and my budget is getting altered very quickly. Optional fun is going away quickly. Its so odd to have struggled to get to a good place, to be mathematically ranked in a "better" economic state, and feel like homelessness and hunger are still right there behind me.
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