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Ben Werdmuller
@ben@werd.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

And now, an executive order that calls for the involuntary institutionalization of the homeless and mentally ill without due process or clear release criteria. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/ending-crime-and-disorder-on-americas-streets/

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RS, Author, Novelist, Prosaist
@sfwrtr@eldritch.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben So many things are being said about how this will only make it worse by other commenters that I can only add: Who is going to pay for something the public has no stomach for paying for? And who is going to let them build it in their backyards?

Lead balloons incoming, duck!

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CartyBoston
@CartyBoston@mastodon.roundpond.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben The WaPo called it "hospitalization" - how can we win when we have these fuckers making it all sound palatable?
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VexaciousFacts
@VexaciousFacts@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben I think the executive giving this order needs to dogfood his own product b/c clearly he meets that 2nd cat.
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herbert
@hvdsomp@w3c.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben in case anyone needed more hard proof about where this is heading, this should suffice
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Ned Hamson
@nedhamson1@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben 40+% of homeless are vet. Heartless and stupidity hallmark of Trump
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KanaMauna
@KanaMauna@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

Speed running our way through that German poem.

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Oregon Wine Woman
@NorCalWineLady@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben
Thank you for sharing this.
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Of Bookish Things
@JPK_elmediat@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben
This was at the first 100 days. #RuthBenGhiat, #Autocracy scholar, analyses the #TrumpAdministration’s rapid shift towards #Authoritarianism. She talks about #Trump’s #PersonalityCult, how #Strongmen portray machismo and the potential for a female strongman figure. She also discusses how autocrats use corruption, violence and propaganda to stay in power, and how #ICE roundups echo the past, resembling a “secret police force”.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat anticipated that #America would reach the tipping point by September.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMATTj3Ai0

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Otter-Matic
@OtterMatic@woof.group replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben fucking nazi president
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Oregon Wine Woman
@NorCalWineLady@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben
W T H ???
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Ham on Wry
@HamonWry@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

So, as per Trump’s executive orders regarding immigration we can deport Melania and Barron Trump. As well as her parents.

As for this last executive order we can now have Donald Trump institutionalized for being mentally ill.

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beachbum1972
@beachbum1972@echoingdusk.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben this is downright terrifying.
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DoNotPunchDown
@DoNotPunchDown@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

No more fucking around

#GeneralStrike
Sign the Strike Card

https://generalstrikeus.com/

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a fish named dog 🎗️✡️♾️
@FishNamedDog@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben so in other words if I become homeless (say, because the minimum wage for autistic people is lower than for neurotypicals) I can be kidnapped? cool.
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Ivey Janette McClelland
@IveyJanette@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Another distraction.
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gmoke
@gmoke@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben What I learned from On the Road: they can fine you until you're broke and then lock you up for vagrancy
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Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 
@jstatepost@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben
Just like in the old Soviet Union!
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cnifi
@cnifi@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben So… Reagan closing the institutions was a bad thing, but Trump reopening them is also a bad thing? Which is it?
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foo ✅
@slashdottir@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Major distraction attempt ☑️
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Dave Wise
@davetheresurrector@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben How long before they come after Democrats calling them mentally ill?
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Kevin Davy
@pathfinder@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben
Shit!
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IHateFireworks
@ProcessParsnip@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Jesus.

You know, even though I was against incarcerating immigrants, it does hit different when your number is on the list.

This is cruel, it is criminal, and it is intentional.

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Nicole Parsons
@Npars01@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/private-prison-behemoth-is-first-corporation-to-max-out-to-trump/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/private-prison-firms-contributed-1m-trumps-reelection-now/story?id=116046776

https://abcnews.go.com/US/private-prison-firm-corecivic-gave-500k-trumps-inauguration/story?id=118218707

Republican megadonors CoreCivic and Geo Corp paid millions to profit from the criminalization of poverty and mental illness.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/private-prison-mass-deportation-trump-billions-geogroup-corecivic-ice/

https://truthout.org/articles/appeals-court-strikes-down-new-jerseys-ban-on-private-prisons/

https://theconversation.com/florida-is-fronting-the-450m-cost-of-alligator-alcatraz-a-legal-scholar-explains-what-we-still-dont-know-about-the-detainees-260665

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/private-companies-trump-immigration-surveillance

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/southwest-border-mission-cost-330m-40m-guantanamo-bay/story?id=120298109

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-migrant-detentions-guantanamo-bay-cost-100000-per-person-daily-senator-2025-05-20/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/guantanamo-bay-migrants-inamtes-cost-noem-b2754840.html

Detention costs $100,000 per person.
Providing housing and healthcare is far more effective & less expensive.

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bstow
@bstow@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Fuck this timeline.
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kungfuthis
@kungfuthis@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben And we thought V for Vendetta was fiction...
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BL4kB1RD
@perikitapreta@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ76xx5VE0Q
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Climate Jenny 2.1
@ClimateJenny@biodiversity.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Here in the DC Metro area, the homeless community has its own weekly newspaper and I can’t wait to read their coverage of this.
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Astrius
@DarthAstrius@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben I truly hate how people believe we can just simply “vote this away” now.
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knowuh
@knowuh@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

History repeats. The work camps of 1938 Germany:

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therieau
@therieau@bitbang.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben How is this not a permission slip for ICE goons to disappear anybody anywhere?
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Happy Pride! Happy Summer! 🌈 😎
@RVLara23@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

Compassionate! Just as Jesus intended. I hear that was last weeks' church sermon - "Fuck the homeless."

My favorite part of this EO is how I still want to see the Epstein files.

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Joyce ailstock
@Joyyann@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben the most dangerous in this country are in the oval office, congressand judiciary. Clean house of that element and we can rebuild our nation
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Joseph Meyer
@JosephMeyer@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Homelessness, mental illness, and substance use disorders have been inadequately addressed in the USA for many decades. But heavy-handed approaches to those problems by a Trump administration that often rejects evidence-based policies and seems apt to rely on interventions led by law enforcement agencies are unlikely to be humane or welcomed by targeted persons. Homeless persons are more often victims of violent crimes than perpetrators of it, but Trump’s executive order emphasizes the opposite viewpoint which is factually incorrect.
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Westcoastmaven 🇨🇦
@Westcoastmaven@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Oh no! Extraordinarily cruel. Where is it going to stop?
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sOlOw-NH
@solownh@mstdn.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

Freedom is just another word

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huntingdon
@huntingdon@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

In plain English, Trump is creating more concentration camps. His excuse this time is to incarcerate the homeless - and mentally ill - for an indefinite sentence.

They aren't people anyway, according to Trump. They are detritus on the sidewalk that lowers property values and scares lil' women in their pumps and pearls. What a monster.

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Betwixt & Between
@blbc@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben NO!! Seriously this is bad enough for those affected without extrapolating it to others.
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Diane
@alienghic@timeloop.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

Also considering global warming is ramping up it's ability to destroy vast numbers of homes, nearly anyone can now end up in the forced labor camps.

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If the oceans die, we die....
@Allkinds@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben so now you or I can be declared mentally ill.
Disappeared with no due process. Just because “they” say so.
How is that legal?
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Nazani
@Nazani@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben And put them where? In my community many of the homeless are working multiple jobs, including moms who live in a car with kids.
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Chris Dudley
@ccdudley85@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@benhttps://librivox.app/book/2514
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CaptMorgan
@CaptMorgan@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Im not remembering my history wrong, the nazis did this exact thing right?
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broodishly
@brood@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben "Shifting homeless individuals into long-term institutional settings for humane treatment through the appropriate use of civil commitment will restore public order. "

so. camps.

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@kalfatermann@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

In addition to this abysmal inhumanity, the cash registers are ringing in the background. Prisons and detention centers and whatever else such facilities are called are corporations that make huge sums of money from imprisonment/locking people up.

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David Chartier
@chartier@toot.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben @Gargron On the bright side, there’s a provision in there for cities to focus on registered sex offenders. So he has a chance of getting a new home!
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Dan says: You had enough yet?
@WastelandWandrr@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben I suggest sending rapists and child traffickers to the goulag without due process, that would solve a lot of your problems. #pedotus
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FallsMom 🌻
@FallsMom@mastodon.coffee replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

Not to mention what hospitals have capatiy to take all these new folks, "house?" them, and who's gonna foot the bill Donnie

Oh I know, some pal of DJT will open a chain of for profit mental health facilities and get big gov't contracts

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rozodru
@rozodru@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben and it continues. they'll use this to justify rounding up LGBTQ+ individuals, low income individuals, and more POC.

All they have to do now is say you're "mentally ill" or "homeless" (protesting outside too long, looking homeless, etc) and they'll send you off to the concentration camps.

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Old Hippie Ⓥ Resistance!
@old_hippie@veganism.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben The fascist playbook.
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Margaret Sefton
@MargaretSefton@writing.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben I wrote a near future story about a husband who committed his wife via his contacts in the medical community. Now, a much nearer future, and likely for commitment, the flimsiest of rationalizations will do.
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Anne
@annewalk@tootsweet.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Maybe that’s why they started saying democrats have trump derangement syndrome. Guess that’ll qualify as mentally ill.
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Andrew Douglass
@ardouglass@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben @cory sure are a lot of “or” conjunctions in there that would allow them to target poorly defined “dangerous” mentally ill people, even if they’re in stable housing.
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jandi
@jandi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben Sigh. I feel sorry for the people affected. There's no english version (yet?) of the 1954 "law", but take a look at the spanish version of this fascist decree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Law_on_dangerousness_and_social_rehabilitation

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_de_Vagos_y_Maleantes
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Gabriel N
@wtrmt@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben hey! That’s the “Ley de vagos y maleantes” that we abolished in Venezuela long ago for being unconstitutional and a way to impose a police state. It was used widely by the police to grab you for no reason.

Nice democracy that you have over there.

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James 🌈💜
@shaknais@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben

Note that efforts to declare all LGBTQ+ as mentally ill are both in progress and nearing completion.

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Steve Yelvington
@steve@s.yelvington.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@ben And soon Trump's ICE goons will be coming for veterans with PTSD.
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