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Stefan Bohacek
Stefan Bohacek
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@strider Very thorough!

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@strider@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@technically_good @stefan, just checked:

Keyword: neocities

Search engine / position in search:
*localisation is off, shows global results + VPN: Baltics
- DDG / 1st
- Brave / 1st
- Startpage / 1st
- Qwant (Estonia) / not even TOP10
- Qwant (Germany) / 4th result: status.neocities
- Qwant (US) / not even TOP10
- Kagi / 1st
- Google / 1st
- Bing / 6th: status, 7th: GitHub

*No “global” search in Qwant, a specific country has to be selected.

Similar results for “fight fascism neocities”

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Stefan Bohacek
Stefan Bohacek
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@strider Very thorough!

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@strider@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@stefan, thanks, it's my bread. Also, I have an update from today's results:

- Bing / 1st
- Qwant / still sucks
- Others / same as yesterday

Bing was tested both for EU-centric and US-centric results. It seems, whatever was the issue, it's resolved now

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Stefan Bohacek
Stefan Bohacek
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 hours ago

@technically_good Yeah, the trouble here is that eg. DuckDuckGo (not sure about the others) does use Bing.

"Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing."

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources

Where do DuckDuckGo search results come from? - DuckDuckGo Help Pages

DuckDuckGo is an independent internet privacy company that offers a private alternative to Google search & Chrome in one free app.
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dragonfrog
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@dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@stefan @technically_good
Interestingly
- DuckDuckGo claims to directly use Bing
- Qwant claims to only fall back on Bing when it lacks search results in its own engine

And yet

- when I queried "neocities" at DuckDuckGo, the top hit was neocities.org.
- when I queried "neocities" at Qwant, I got only pages *about* neocities, but no link directly to neocities.org - the same behaviour as searching directly on Bing.

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Stefan Bohacek
Stefan Bohacek
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@dragonfrog

Interesting. I tried searching for "fight fascism neocities" (no quotes), Google and DDG show the page I made as the top result, I don't see it on Bing at all.

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izzy | Technically Good ✨
izzy | Technically Good ✨
@technically_good@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@stefan Thanks! I've updated the original post with a note 👍

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