@djlink@mastodon.gamedev.place @stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloud Then they should get an own server running for that like Rocket/Matrix/XMPP. Maybe there are also organisations who can do that for communities.
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@djlink I wish it would just die. Discord has always felt like a step down from forum+mailing list. I get that many gamers like the voice chat and streaming features, but then they go and use ephemeral chat as a substitute for a searchable forum and FAQ. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve had a question about a Minecraft mod’s compatibility and I’ve had to pester a dev on chat because there’s nowhere to just look it up!
A quick list of alternatives:
TeamSpeak: https://www.teamspeak.com/en/
Element: https://element.io/en
Quiet: https://tryquiet.org/index.html
Zulip: https://zulip.com
I'm fully aware that these aren't exactly like Discord, and they have their own imperfections. That said, until something else with a comparable feature set comes along, communities may have to switch to a separate forum and chat model. Don't come at me, I'm just trying to brainstorm, here.
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A lot are asking "ok which alternatives?". Indeed there's nothing quite exactly like Discord and that's the scary part of them going public, they convinced tons of companies to ditch blogs/forums in favor of them. But because there's no exact replacement doesn't mean we should wait and see. Investigate! (some are in comments suggesting stuff) Remember Twitter and others stuff we had to leave when it was too late to slowly build momentum elsewhere. That's what I'm getting at.
@djlink @cstross I'm not a fan of Discord. It’s like Facebook, WhatsApp etc in that it's designed to provide a constantly-flowing river of distractions, not a resource you can refer back to. Forum software, hideous as it mostly is, is better in this respect.
But we use Discord (or FB, WhatsApp etc) because our friends are there. And our friends are there (or on FB, X etc) because it’s easy & convenient. We KEEP doing this: setting ourselves up for enshittification for the sake of convenience.
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Unfortunately there isn't really any solid discord alternative.
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Give me time
@djlink id love to, but to where? no other chat service works as well as discord does for large communities
@stella for large communities and access to information/questions forums work perfectly. For IM I don’t think there’s any problem to keep using it for now to chat with friends etc since it is usually smaller circles and might as well use what they use. But people with large communities should consider not to be subject to whatever thing shareholders decide next until it’s too late.
@djlink what about large communities that still want to act in an IM style
forums dont work for everything
@djlink@mastodon.gamedev.place @stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloud Then they should get an own server running for that like Rocket/Matrix/XMPP. Maybe there are also organisations who can do that for communities.
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to note : #Discourse forum has an instant messaging chat included now ... the only thing missing is voice channel imho
(there is a plugin in dev for it though https://github.com/xfalcox/resenha )