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Simon EI3JDB
@EI3JDB@mastodon.radio  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff The target for this shouldn't be the developers but the people who are paying them. Developers care about tech brands. Smart business folk care about audience. Making your product less accessible to ~50% of your audience is breathtakingly dumb.

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Benny Powers 馃嚠馃嚤馃
@bp@social.bennypowers.com replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff@toot.cafe you'd catch more flies with a "money on the table" argument, rather than appealing to their socialist consciences

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Alex Russell
@slightlyoff@toot.cafe replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@bp You would think that, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

I've been doing this a long, long time now, and the grim reality is that you don't know what will work with any given team/org until you try out a few different arguments, and 90% of the time status quo bias wins regardless.

The single most effective thing so far has been CWV, which is a pocket book play from authority, but even that has not broken the JavaScript/Industrial Complex's grip.

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Paolo Redaelli
@paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff
I've always been told that the "I" in iPhone stand for "idiot"

iMac iPad iPod iPhone iwatch and obviously the idiot
iMac iPad iPod iPhone iwatch and obviously the idiot
iMac iPad iPod iPhone iwatch and obviously the idiot
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Jeff Atwood
@codinghorror@infosec.exchange replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff to me, nothing is a particular "brand" of smartphone, it is a rectangle of a certain size running the web just like all the others.

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Alex Russell
@slightlyoff@toot.cafe replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@codinghorror But that's untrue in at least two measurable senses, right?

The first is that folks carrying iOS devices are living in a bubble of connectivity and CPU luxury. The data is unequivocal about that.

The second is that "the web" on iOS is a bad facsimile of what we could have. I've documented this at length, as has @owa:

https://infrequently.org/series/browser-choice-must-matter/

It's a perverse combination of overpowered hardware and underpowered software that makes the web worse for everyone via wealth effects.

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Paolo Redaelli
@paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff
Those are not "developers", they are Apple's bonobos.

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Simon EI3JDB
@EI3JDB@mastodon.radio replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff The target for this shouldn't be the developers but the people who are paying them. Developers care about tech brands. Smart business folk care about audience. Making your product less accessible to ~50% of your audience is breathtakingly dumb.

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Alex Russell
@slightlyoff@toot.cafe replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@EI3JDB I do, indeed, make the case in my series (which these updated #s are in prep for) that this is a PM crisis, first and foremost. PMs in the modern tech era are just phoning it it, most of the time. Totally failing to engage with the evidence around them or, you know, *managing* their products:

https://infrequently.org/series/performance-inequality/

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J. "Henry" Waugh
@jhwgh1968@chaos.social replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff 馃挴

Send those developers this talk -- which is unfortunately about to turn 10 years old, but a recent blog post of his confirms it is more relevant than ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bZvq3nodf4

Progressive Performance (Chrome Dev Summit 2016)
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Matthew Weier O'Phinney
@mwop@phpc.social replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff So much this.

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Thomas Rigby
@hryggrbyr@fedia.social replied  路  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@slightlyoff@toot.cafe I made an interactive map of the Apple/Android split once to try and visualise it for our design team

https://hryggrbyr.github.io/statistics-maps/apple-android-global-split/

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