@mekkaokereke "Can Conservative Feminism Save It?"
No.
It can't even protect itself from it's own men, why would anybody expect anything from White Feminism? You just have to look at JK Rowling....
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@mekkaokereke "Did women ruin the workplace, and when did they stop beating their husbands?"
@mekkaokereke Remember when legacy media wasn’t a complete embarrassment?
@mekkaokereke I checked to confirm who boosted this onto my feed. Assumed I had a pretty good idea. Turns out it wasn’t @ianbetteridge after all.
@technicaladept @mekkaokereke It definitely would have been had I spotted it earlier!
@mekkaokereke Ignore this clickbaity BS, our attention should be on the real issues. Maybe ignore all of the #NYT at this point. They don't even report properly on the #climate because they take ad money from oil companies.
Maybe we should ignore the home of the "how can I live on a paltry $400,000 per year" lifestyle essay for being out of touch with most of america?
@mekkaokereke "Some questions are harmful in and of themselves"
There is no "we're just asking questions"
They are shifting the window to prepare the ground for something unthinkable
Rarely the Betteridge's Law applies this strongly.
@hittitezombie @mekkaokereke it's worthy of summoning Betteridge himself!
@mekkaokereke "Can Conservative Feminism Save It?"
No.
It can't even protect itself from it's own men, why would anybody expect anything from White Feminism? You just have to look at JK Rowling....
@mekkaokereke lol, backlash then....
@mekkaokereke
I think it was a mistake to normalize the belief that there are no stupid questions.
@mekkaokereke Next up: Does Consent Ruin Sex?
@mekkaokereke @sophieschmieg Good grief. There's NO SUCH THING as "conservative feminism"! All you've got when you drill down is I've-got-mine Mammonism and patriarchy—Aunt Lydia in a nutshell.
@cstross @mekkaokereke @sophieschmieg @mhoye There was a recent spate of "tradwives" articles floating around out there as well, I just assumed from the headline that this was just a variation on a theme.
@steevmi1 @cstross @mekkaokereke @sophieschmieg I've always assumed that the tradwife thing was a dom/sub roleplay fetish that escaped containment when somebody who got off on it decided they had enough of a pulpit to start talking about their kinks like they should be a public policy issue, and this nonsense is just in the water now half a mile downriver.
@cstross @mekkaokereke @sophieschmieg Sure, but just like the quid pro quo for the quality is "restore de jure chattel slavery everywhere", the quid pro quo for the folks in the MAGA hats is "force women to marry".
Which in turn means "women can't get jobs, bank accounts, loans, or higher education" (at a minimum); all that is in living memory and the bottom two fifths of the male population, should we rank them by social desirability, want it back real bad.
@graydon @cstross @mekkaokereke @sophieschmieg that's only 20% of the population, they wouldn't win elections without the support of tradwives.
@fazalmajid It takes about 10% of the population to have a revolution.
It's a system under selection. (Life is involved, so…) Incumbents (a man granted patriarchal status is an incumbent) cannot accept change because incumbency means "meaningful change" is the same thing as loss of status.
But there's no changing local maxima without going downslope some, and thus we get politics. (This is the problem of armies in an evolved hat. That _is_ progress.)
@mekkaokereke If I had to work somewhere only populated with men who thought this, I wouldn't work somewhere.
@mekkaokereke Canceled my subscription.
@mekkaokereke in the weekend edition, I expect a four-page feature on “how human rights ruined the economy”
@mekkaokereke it's too bad I'm not subscribed to the NYT because I would have taken great pleasure in unsubscribing immediately after seeing this.
@mekkaokereke Did men ruin the workplace?
And can normal, actual feminism fix it?
@mekkaokereke hahaha, is this reverse click-bait? Like they put something on the website that immediately makes the visitor close the browser tab, close the laptop lid, throw the laptop into the trash bin and cancel their internet subscription? 😂
@mekkaokereke wow this is very low
@mekkaokereke That really is embarrassing. It is not a question anyone should be asking, let alone a national newspaper. Giving legitimacy to that kind of crap
WHAT THE FUCK IS "CONSERVATIVE FEMINISM"?!?!?!
@mekkaokereke Can someone explain to me like I am a five year old what "conservative feminism" is?
I so far thought I know what "conservative" is and what "feminism" is.
And the Venn diagram of those two concepts shows to circles beneath each other. The distance between them is debateable, but they do not even touch!
@heiglandreas @mekkaokereke pretty sure it means racist white women empowering themselves and nobody else
@mekkaokereke for one, questions in journalism usually are answered with "no". But it still reads like a really biased piece.
And, of course, from a conservative standpoint, the previous head honchos did lose _some_ influence, due to more women in the workplace. Which, from their point of view, is negative.
From every other point of view, it's a positive development!
@mekkaokereke I had originally not intended to let my nyt subscription lapse, but late last year that card expired and I needed to update payment details.
Only thing was, card numbers are 16 digits and the nyt payment info form has 16 chars for that field. Which has been instrumented with logic to insert a space after every 4 chars entered, so I only got to enter 13 digits.
Their customer service was all bots, no humans, so I just gave up.
Seeing s**t like this, I'm just happy about that.
@mekkaokereke I saw that on the homepage and decided not to give it my click
Is it deeper than the headline at least?
I will never know.
@mekkaokereke Oh ok. You're in the same position as me, then? I.e., didn't give it your click
Being in media/writing/journalism I know all too well that homepage editors or social media editors may change headlines, deks, teasers to be completely non-reflective of the story, so sometimes I am wary. But anything that shows up in that right-most NYT column on the homepage is usually ope-ed trash and I ignore it
It's Ross Douthat. So no.
@mekkaokereke @jilleduffy
On the off chance that neither of you know of this, search for "Ross Douthat Chunky Reese Witherspoon". You can lower your opinion of him a little more. The original is his own words of course, but the first commentary on it I know of is https://web.archive.org/web/20090317171556/http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/03/fear-of-reese-witherspoon-look-alikes-on-the-pill.html
Wow. The NYTimes is so far over the shark it's all the way to Missouri.
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