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Patrick Breyer
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

馃嚜馃嚭鈿狅笍 A perfidious trick? The EU Council Presidency wants to introduce mandatory #ChatControl through the backdoor 馃毆: An Art. 4 amendment would MANDATE "all reasonable mitigation measures," including scanning, enforced with sanctions! 馃槨
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-10-30_Council_Presidency_CSAR_Policy-debate_14032.pdf

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p
@p@raru.re replied  路  activity timestamp yesterday

Straight to jail
@echo_pbreyer

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Deni Mintsaev 馃嚜馃嚭
@mintydev@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp yesterday

@echo_pbreyer I hope I get to see the day when the Council is sacked in favor of a new democratic upper house for the EU parliament.

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vurk
@vurk@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp yesterday

@echo_pbreyer

Essentially they are trying to get Parliament to agree to all the infrastructure of Chat Control - the EU Centre, data exchange channels, reporting systems - without the explicit scanning obligation, but with the ability to reintroduce it later with minimal legislative friction.

This creates a legal and technical foundation for future mass scanning, without having to fight the political battle now.

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@ao_oni@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp yesterday

@echo_pbreyer
馃嚜馃嚘鈿狅笍 驴Juego sucio? La presidencia del consejo de la UE quiere introducir #ChatControl de marera obligada a trav茅s de una puerta trasera馃毆: Art. 4 ORDENA "todas las medidas de mitigaci贸n razonables ," incluyendo escaneo de comunicaciones, amenazando con sanciones! 馃槨
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-10-30_Council_Presidency_CSAR_Policy-debate_14032.pdf

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ProScience
@proscience@toot.community replied  路  activity timestamp yesterday

@echo_pbreyer

I demand live chat control of all members of the Commission, Council, MEPs, DG personnel, tech company boards and execs.

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vurk
@vurk@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer

So the presidency wants to decide what everyone else had a problem with, scratch out some of those things from the proposal and push through all the rest? How does this make sense in any form?

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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer

Now we comparing rights, folks. And they are indirectly blaming us. Remember when they told that we were bought by Big Tech corporations? Those big freedom freaks!

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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer

Taken from https://netzpolitik.org/2025/drahtbericht-deutsche-diplomaten-fordern-undiplomatisch-chatkontrolle/

Maybe someone has been sleeping?

netzpolitik.org

Deutsche Diplomaten fordern undiplomatisch Chatkontrolle

Die deutsche Vertretung in Br眉ssel beschwert sich 眉ber den Widerstand gegen die Chatkontrolle. Das geht aus einem internen Drahtbericht hervor, den wir ver枚ffentlichen. Die Diplomaten wollen, dass Deutschland der Chatkontrolle zustimmt - und kritisieren sogar die Justizministerin.
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[AF]2050
@AleF2050@livellosegreto.it replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer Gosh, they really want to pass this crap so badly... ._.

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patricus
@patricus@mstdn.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer oh, if they're going to do that they should change the name to Eurussia because that's so stupid that I think only communistic states would do it.

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Doerk
@NebulaTide@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer @Tutanota Seems like the fight will never end.

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Kat
@KatS@chaosfem.tw replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer Of course they do.

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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer What do we do now?

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H4Heights 馃嚜馃嚭馃嚨馃嚫馃嚭馃嚘馃嚚馃嚘
@H4Heights@mstdn.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer This is bad news and hints at worse to come.

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nihilistic_capybara
@nihilistic_capybara@layer8.space replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer perhaps its time to start shaming individuals? Who keeps coming up with that crap?

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Anton 馃嚭馃嚘馃嚜馃嚭
@atjn@mastodon.online replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@nihilistic_capybara @echo_pbreyer Please feel free to shame this dipshit as much as you want https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hummelgaard

Peter Hummelgaard - Wikipedia

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ProScience
@proscience@toot.community replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer

They're enemies of democracy and the rights that come with it, simple as that.

#fightfascistseverywhere

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Stefan Elf
@inwis@mastodon.online replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer
Was waiting for trickery tbh 鈽癸笍

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Patrick Breyer
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

馃嚝馃嚪鈿狅笍 Perfide man艙uvre ? La pr茅sidence du Conseil de l'UE veut imposer le #ChatControl par la petite porte 馃毆 : une modification de l'art. 4 pour EXIGER 芦 toutes les mesures d'att茅nuation raisonnable 禄, y compris le scan ! 馃槨
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-10-30_Council_Presidency_CSAR_Policy-debate_14032.pdf

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Patrick Breyer
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

馃嚠馃嚬鈿狅笍 Perfido inganno? La presidenza del Consiglio UE vuole imporre il #ChatControl dalla porta di servizio 馃毆: una modifica all'art. 4 per PRESCRIVERE 芦tutte le misure di attenuazione ragionevoli禄, inclusa la scansione, pena sanzioni! 馃槨
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-10-30_Council_Presidency_CSAR_Policy-debate_14032.pdf

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kuro
@Kurosetii@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer Guess we got tricked so bad

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Infosec StuC
@InfosecStuC@infosec.exchange replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@echo_pbreyer I thought it was too good to be true when Denmark ostensibly gave up.

Could you please provide some background? Where do we need to apply pressure?

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