@HighlandLawyer @fishidwardrobe @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate Who *doesn't* have a constant internal monologue going?
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@cstross @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate I honestly think that if we found an objectivs test for sapience, some of us would fail it.
of course we can't know that. (and i'm not saying that non-sapient humans would not be "people".)
But I wonder if one of the reasons we struggle to define sapience is because we are starting with the assumption that all humans are sapient, and other animals are not … there is a long history of this sort of thinking in western science…
@fishidwardrobe @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate We also assume that everybody is sapient all the time, when I suspect it's more like a 5-10% of the time function we invoke when we actually confront a non-routine situation that can't be handled by learned reflexes.
@cstross
I have met non sapient people. They are people, they have feelings, they can be nice, or less nice.
They just can't learn by analogy. they have no sense that things can be related. it's very weird to try and explain anything to them.
some have PhDs.
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@cstross @fishidwardrobe @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate
Possibly a different split between neurodivergent & neurotypical, if "constant internal monologue" counts as sapience.
@HighlandLawyer @fishidwardrobe @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate Who *doesn't* have a constant internal monologue going?
@cstross @HighlandLawyer @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate i suspect that some of those that think they don't, don't have the trick of hearing it
@cstross oh god, now I'm trying to work out if I have an internal monologue going all the time and suddenly I'm narrating my every thought!
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@cstross @fishidwardrobe @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate
Supposedly, the majority of neurotypicals. 🤷
@cstross @fishidwardrobe @carturo222 @po8crg @coldclimate I would love to argue against that “sapient maybe 10% of the time” thing but on average I don’t think I could — so much of daily life is a series of chained routines, habits, and standard social scripts that it’s tough to refute.
Also I have noticed that some folks have a *strong* and reflexive aversion to having to exercise sapience. I don’t understand that, but understanding isn’t actually required. (And maybe is counterproductive?)
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