@k I asked about two specific laptops. I also mentioned I am specifically interested in QubesOS certified laptops.

I'm sorry if that was unclear and made it seem as if I am inclined to consider any other laptop, especially ones that are not QubesOS certified.

@marmarta ooooh this is fantastic info. Thanks. Getting the StarBook then, the screen brightness is what pushed me over the line on it.

@frox containers provide paper thin isolation whereas qubes runs a hardened xen configuration. it's much more difficult to conduct a vm escape and compromise dom0 (the admin vm) than it is to conduct a container escape

as for resources, it is heavy but useable on even a mediocre system

@rysiek

Ordered the StarLabs StarBook. I'll have it in a few days, so I don't know how the device itself looks and feels, yet but I have to say:

Communications with #StarLabs about the order so far had been absolutely stellar.

The delivery is a bit fraught for independent reasons, and StarLabs went out of their way to communicate clearly and adjust their regular shipping schedule to accommodate this.

Truly a breath of fresh air in that regard. Here's hoping the laptop meets the same high standard!

@rysiek I'm using a p53 with a 4k screen. both R4.2 and R4.3 handle scaling on one monitor fine, but R4.2 - which still uses X - is hopelessly unusable with a second monitor that isn't also hidpi. my workaround was to use sys-gui and pass my gpu (and its hdmi port obviously) to the external monitor. the major downside is that qrexec is noticeably slower and so stuff like running salt states and updates take soooo long

R4.3 uses wayland and it's not a problem at all

@ Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 I guess you saw this note?

"Qubes OS (certified) doesn't handle high screen resolutions very well. We therefore highly recommend to select the Full HD+ screen option in combination with Qubes OS."

Found on the V54/56 order page, when selecting Qubes OS with a 2560 x 1600 screen

@rysiek 🤣