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HTML element indicates that the enclosed text is an extended quotation. Usually, this is rendered visually by indentation (see Notes for how to change it). A URL for the source of the quotation may be given using the cite attribute, while a text representation of the source can be given using the element.

@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:

@reiver@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

Apparently the Bookwyrm developer had the exact same idea!

(Which isn't too surprising.)

Here is how it works —

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#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

Object types

• Note: On services like Mastodon, Notes are the primary type of status. They contain a message body, attachments, can mention users, and be replies to statuses of any type. Within BookWyrm, Notes can only be created as direct messages or as replies to other statuses.

• Review: A review is a status in response to a book (indicated by the inReplyToBook field), which has a title, body, and numerical rating between 0 (not rated) and 5.

• Comment: A comment on a book mentions a book and has a message body.

• Quotation: A quote has a message body, an excerpt from a book, and mentions a book. — Object types • Note: On services like Mastodon, Notes are the primary type of status. They contain a message body, attachments, can mention users, and be replies to statuses of any type. Within BookWyrm, Notes can only be created as direct messages or as replies to other statuses. • Review: A review is a status in response to a book (indicated by the inReplyToBook field), which has a title, body, and numerical rating between 0 (not rated) and 5. • Comment: A comment on a book mentions a book and has a message body. • Quotation: A quote has a message body, an excerpt from a book, and mentions a book.

@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:

@reiver@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

Apparently, Bookwyrm stores quotations with:

type="Quotation"

And if one Bookwyrm server talks to another Bookwyrm server, then — the ActivityPub / ActivityStreams representation of the quotation will have:

type="Quotation"

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BUT — if a non-Bookwyrm server talks to a Bookwyrm server, then — the ActivityPub / ActivityStreams representation of the quotation will have:

type="Note"

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

just small circles 🕊

@smallcircles@social.coop replied · 3 days ago

@span reiver

There are examples of the #ActivityPub extensions #Bookwyrm makes, which are on the (commonly taken) path of protocol decay and whack-a-mole programming by their #LinkedData non-conformance, unfortunately.

Yet that means there's opportunity for #FEP's if there are more #interoperability parties. 😃

Here's an example of Quotation, which has no LD context:

https://github.com/bookwyrm-social/bookwyrm/blob/main/bookwyrm/tests/data/ap_quotation.json

And here of Edition which is incorrectly placed in #ActivityStreams context:

https://github.com/bookwyrm-social/bookwyrm/blob/main/bookwyrm/tests/data/bw_edition.json

Raphael Lullis

@raphael@activitypub.lullis.net replied · 3 days ago

@smallcircles @reiver 1) What does a bookwyrm server returns if we asked for the object directly?

2) The Quotation types could be useful, but why not provide it in a proper LD context?

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