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Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

You're going to hear some people, quite sincerely, argue that the California redistricting plan should be rejected by voters, because "we have to play fair even if the other side doesn't".

This is the kind of attitude that got millions of people shoved into ovens by Hitler.

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Brian Grinter
@bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren @timrichards I look at our independent electoral commission in Oz, while not perfect still a million times better and ask how do you get such easily corruptible systems in other countries
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huntingdon
@huntingdon@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren

California's redistricting effort is playing fair. It's just that the rules for what's fair have changed.

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Mad Engineering
@madengineering@mastodon.cloud replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren They used to say "when they go low, we go high," but I noted that it quickly turned into "when they go low, please sir may I have another?"

In a low trust envirornment like we have, tit-for-tat is the best strategy.

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Tim Richards
@timrichards@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren Titally agree. IMO the Dems should gerrymander as hard as possible, but offer to withdraw on the agrred creation of a neutral national districting body.
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Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@timrichards They have actually already essentially made that offer, but of course it went nowhere. There's also I believe a GOP rep pushing this, but of course he's going nowhere either.
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Chuck
@ChuckMcManis@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren One of the interesting things about the Ukraine war was how long it took Europe to realize Trump was on Putin’s side. I’m all in favor in acting now! To try to get us back on track. It is going to be difficult even with the map remaking.
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52 Fighters
@52fighters@rcsocial.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren Once approved, #scotus should scrap both CA and TX plans. Back to where we started. #gerrymandering
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Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@52fighters SCOTUS has already officially endorsed this class of actions. That's why Texas moved ahead with it. Train has already left the station.
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Angie
@ang6666@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren Honestly this was my initial thought. We don't want to be evil like them. BUT then I slapped myself back into reality. Nothing else is working so what the hell!
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David Truesdell
@kj6dbe@mastodon.hams.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren It's already started. A flyer opposing the special election landed in my mailbox today.

While I support the idea of a non-partisan redistricting process, it should be done that way nation wide. I don't agree with the idea that one side should play fair, while the other openly cheats.

But, it seems that some people are on the side of the cheaters.

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Faraiwe
@faraiwe@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren nothing is stupider than "when they go low, we go high"

When they go low, drop lower, shank them in the femoral, kick their knee backwards.

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Doreen32128 ready to rumble!
@Doreen32128@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@lauren Exactly! Well said! successsuccesssuccess
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