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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

Do not stay at a Hyatt hotel. They're running fake "smoking detectors" specifically as a revenue-generating scheme and arbitrarily fining guests $500.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1945959030851035223.html

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Tony Hoyle
@tony@toot.hoyle.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard Even if these things worked, in what world is $500 a sane fine.
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Kévin ⏚
@kc@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard that "innovation under capitalism" strikes again
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joriki
@joriki@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard
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Milton on the phone while holding his red stapler
Milton on the phone while holding his red stapler
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Noortje Van Leeuwen
@Noortjevee@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard its the hair dryer...

That causes the "smoking" alert.

But i heard people on YT about this.

And also "the systeem is fool proof"?
No system is...

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xs4me2
@xs4me2@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard

Very weird…

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Magical Cat
@koteisaev@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard So, if I bump into such situation? Should I call police, or what? I asking because I am not a famous blogger with million subscribers, so posting a video in corporate SM I don't use is not an option for me.
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Martin Seeger
@masek@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard How does this work?

Don’t you have to sign off the amount when you pay with your credit card?

I would just refuse to pay and let them sue… Does this work differently in the U.S.?

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Marisa
@marisa@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard if there's a way to make money....
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ahoyboyhoy
@ahoyboyhoy@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard anyone used Hertz rent a car lately? They bogus automated damage claim reporting. Happy to share my experience this month if a reporting or lawyer is interested
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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@ahoyboyhoy oh yeah that one's the same shit,
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Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️
@Blort@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard

Interestingly the article linked to says that they uncovered the same thing happening at other hotel chains using the same "revenue generating" smoke alarm product, so it's not just Hyatts...

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Bob
@JustBob@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard seems like there’s a class action lawsuit waiting for some lucky law firm
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B'ad Samurai 🐐
@badsamurai@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard I know people really like earning points/miles/cash on their primary credit card,(s), but temporal #s locked to a set limit, almost entirely prevent sketchy and double charges.

I'll take financial protection from scuzzy merchants (and their security breaches) over points & miles, any day.

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Alex Feinman
@afeinman@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard New "red light camera" bullshit revenue stream just dropped, 'nice'.
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Zimmie
@bob_zim@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard Beyond individuals staying at hotels, I’m adjacent to quite a few people who run conferences and conventions. Several will shortly be having very pointed conversations with their hotel liaisons.
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𝔏𝔬𝔯𝔡 𝔚𝔥𝔬𝔯𝔣𝔦𝔫
@whorfin@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@davidgerard What if ShotSpotter, but for smoking?

https://www.restsensor.com

Incredibly, they pivoted from something ShotSpotter adjacent, presumably just as flakey
https://noiseaware.com/

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