Richard MacManus
@ricmac@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp last week

Oh no…now Meta is automatically sharing our private messages to its AI. As far as I can tell, you can only turn it off for each message thread, one at a time (and there seems to be no option to turn it off at all for group threads!). Yet another privacy disaster from Facebook.

I use Messenger btw for family and non-tech friends, so don’t (ahem) shoot the messenger.

Help text: ‹ Manage message sharing permissions fo... Help Center Turn off message sharing permissions in a chat on Messenger 1. From your inbox, open a chat on Messenger. 2. Tap the name of the chat at the top. 3. Below Privacy & support, tap • Message permissions. 4. Tap the toggle next to Allow message sharing © to turn off message sharing. Tap it again to turn it on. If you turn off message sharing: • The option to auto-save photos will also be turned off. • No one in the chat will be able to use Al features that involve sharing messages with Meta Al, such as summarizing with Meta Al or asking Meta Al to edit someone else's photo. • Remember that people can still share messages or content in the chat with other people (example: by forwarding) or with Meta (by reporting).
Help text: ‹ Manage message sharing permissions fo... Help Center Turn off message sharing permissions in a chat on Messenger 1. From your inbox, open a chat on Messenger. 2. Tap the name of the chat at the top. 3. Below Privacy & support, tap • Message permissions. 4. Tap the toggle next to Allow message sharing © to turn off message sharing. Tap it again to turn it on. If you turn off message sharing: • The option to auto-save photos will also be turned off. • No one in the chat will be able to use Al features that involve sharing messages with Meta Al, such as summarizing with Meta Al or asking Meta Al to edit someone else's photo. • Remember that people can still share messages or content in the chat with other people (example: by forwarding) or with Meta (by reporting).
Help text: ‹ Manage message sharing permissions fo... Help Center Turn off message sharing permissions in a chat on Messenger 1. From your inbox, open a chat on Messenger. 2. Tap the name of the chat at the top. 3. Below Privacy & support, tap • Message permissions. 4. Tap the toggle next to Allow message sharing © to turn off message sharing. Tap it again to turn it on. If you turn off message sharing: • The option to auto-save photos will also be turned off. • No one in the chat will be able to use Al features that involve sharing messages with Meta Al, such as summarizing with Meta Al or asking Meta Al to edit someone else's photo. • Remember that people can still share messages or content in the chat with other people (example: by forwarding) or with Meta (by reporting).
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Popup in Messenger: messenger • Ask Meta Al or Search Do more in your chats with Meta Al Now people in your chats can share messages with Meta Al to summarize conversations, edit images, suggest replies and more. Shared messages may be used to improve Al at Meta. Learn more
Popup in Messenger: messenger • Ask Meta Al or Search Do more in your chats with Meta Al Now people in your chats can share messages with Meta Al to summarize conversations, edit images, suggest replies and more. Shared messages may be used to improve Al at Meta. Learn more
Hiisikoloart
@hiisikoloart@writing.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago
@ricmac
I have to be in FB for a little longer due to not being able to lose so many contacts and groups that I sell my art through, and connect with other trans and IH folk (sleep disorder groups).

Hopefully that will change one day...also need to buy new memory stick for all the pictures I saved there.

I had to delete any chats I had that I couldn't block the AI sharing on. It was time to go through and delete many anyway.
Rodrigo Pio
@rrapio@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp last week
@ricmac I have to say: desperate times call for desperate measures.

My humble suggestion to you:

(1) Prepare a Signal group.
(2) Leave Facebook.
(3) Friends & family will ask why.
(4) Tell them and propose Signal.
(5) Some will migrate, some won't.

Eventually, mid-term, you'll find yourself in a better situation than when you get rid of the Meta leash, and also better than before Meta existed. This is the 1st step of the mile.

It worked for me!

#Signal
Infernal_pizza
@Infernal_pizza@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp last week
@ricmac I think this is only if you or someone else in the chat explicitly shares a message with meta ai, at least that's what their help page seems to suggest:

https://m.facebook.com/help/messenger-app/671966618200379/?helpref=related_articles

"Meta AI can only read and reply to messages that mention @meta AI, including @meta AI /AI image prompts. Others in your chat will be able to see your message to the AI, as well as the AI's response. Be mindful before including any personal information in your message"
Snippety Snap (she/her)
@shansterable@ohai.social  ·  activity timestamp last week
@ricmac
My sisters and I used to communicate via group chat on Facebook Messenger.

Last summer, while we were on vacation together, I successfully convinced them to install Signal and move our discussions there. We use Signal exclusively now.

It can be done! Start planting the seed, send invites from Signal to your family members. Once they see how easy it is to use, they won't care which platform they're using.

It's worth a try! Good luck.
cybr
@cybr@woof.tech  ·  activity timestamp last week
@ricmac what bothers me is how people’s response to things like this is “why does anyone use (insert platform) anymore”. like you said, family is a huge reason for me. i can’t convince the majority of people in my life to move to better alternatives and i don’t wanna socially isolate. this is why we need to fight for changes even with meta and other horrible companies.
TrimTab 🇺🇦
@TrimTab@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp last week
@ricmac
I got my entire family including elderly folk onto signal 3 years ago. I simply pasted this to each straggler:

"Dear -name-, for info i will be deleted from -service- in 2 weeks. I love you but using -service- is morally reprehensible and i value your privacy and safety too much to keep using it. Install signal messenger if you want to reach me, or use the telephone lines"

3 years on, and everyone is happy with Signal and feel smugly superior to facebook / whatsapp schlubs. 😅😅