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mekka okereke :verified:
@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

An important but inconvenient fact to remember about NYPD "work stoppages" and "quiet quitting."

When NYPD intentionally makes fewer arrests and does less police work in protest, violent crime goes *down*
🙂🙃

Read that again. Violent crime goes *down* when cops quit.

And we've known why since 1970

Once you understand a few things about US policing, this outcome becomes incredibly obvious and unavoidable.

First, understand that "Law and Order, SVU," is not how policing works, and not what police do.

What most police do, most of the time, is arrest and fine innocent Black people.

This makes it unsafe for Black people to call the cops in any circumstances. A Black person that has recently had a violent and racist encounter with the cops, will not call the cops to save you if they see you being assaulted.

So the more "policing" happens, the greater this depressive effect.

The irony:

As you ramp up "policing," it becomes impossible to catch and arrest any real, violent criminals... because you betrayed and violated all of the civilians in the communities that you were supposed to partner with.🤦🏿‍♂️

You created the pre-condition for ineffective and futile police work.

As an NYC resident, you pay $12B a year for a police force that is not good at what you want them to be good at: solving and preventing murder, theft, and sexual assault.

For example, the most stolen items in NYC are smartphones and bikes. NYPD doesn't even recognize the most recommended bike lock🤡

https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/112451441016741832

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Headline: Electing Zohran Mamdani NYC mayor would spur cop exodus, crime surge straight out of Batman’s ‘Gotham City’: experts.
Headline: Electing Zohran Mamdani NYC mayor would spur cop exodus, crime surge straight out of Batman’s ‘Gotham City’: experts.
Headline: Electing Zohran Mamdani NYC mayor would spur cop exodus, crime surge straight out of Batman’s ‘Gotham City’: experts.
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Tricot Feelya
@tricotfeelya@woof.group replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@mekkaokereke because we have the Joker in the White House, and Poison Ivy at the Department of Justice
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undead
@undead@masto.hackers.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@mekkaokereke

NYPOST: This guy is going to make all the cops quit!

Also NYPOST: Posting pictures of what it is like with a $1B cop budget today.

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CaliCarol
@jawarajabbi@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago
@mekkaokereke

If we can judge a man by his enemies, Zorhan is really racking up some meaningful anti-endorsements. Cops hate him? Good. The reaction of that truly awful Governor Hochul is a tell. You can also learn something about others who you THOUGHT were good guys by their opposition to him. I've been scratching my head about Jeffries, now I see in his position on Mamdani that he carries water for the Democratic establishment and their donors. Hakeem's youth fooled me. #uspol

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Dr. Oblivious
@DaveRussell@stranger.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke They always attack anyone who threatens the power of the wealthy or the wage-slave economic ecosystem.
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acm
@acm_redfox@jawns.club replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke "As you ramp up "policing," it becomes impossible to catch and arrest any real, violent criminals... because you betrayed and violated all of the civilians in the communities that you were supposed to partner with.🤦🏿‍♂️"

ouch.

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Mike. 🩼🇨🇦
@MikeImBack@disabled.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke

Public Enemy - 911 Is A Joke
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JZDIitWz8Go

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Rachel Rawlings
@LinuxAndYarn@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke Someone tell the Post to actually watch Gotham or The Penguin to realize that honest cops in Gotham City are as much of an endangered minority as trans folks in Tennessee, and they might not want to make that comparison to the NYPD.
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huntingdon
@huntingdon@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke

Electing a progressive Democrat as mayor will turn NYC into Batman's crime-ridden Gotham City? LOL.

I love when focus-grouped epithets fail this badly. If he's half of what he portrays himself as being, NYC won't need Batman, so many police, or the NY Post.

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Wulfy
@n_dimension@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke

"Crime surge when cops quit", another way to look at that is, that the cops would the commit crimes out of uniform. The cops are a gang of the oligarchs.
Their primary mission is to protect their property.
There are cases where police went to court to seek judgement they have no obligation to help the public.

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Hey Gus
@elebertus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke it’s funny when a perceived threat comes across as a positive.

So you’re saying if someone who generally opposes the police doing actual bad guy shit gets elected there’s going to less police doing actual bad guy stuff?

How is this bad for anyone that isn’t directly benefiting or profiting from cops doing bad guy stuff? Ohh.. right… the bad guys.

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Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 
@jstatepost@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke
That's got to be one if the most blatant scare headlines Eye've ever seen Mr Okereke. The NY Post is doing its utmost to lie about and diminish Mr Mamdani, and using copaganda to do it.
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Max Xaine
@maxxaine@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke#AbolishPolice
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mike bayer :python_logo:
@zzzeek@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke yeah can you even imagine an NYPD helping you with a stolen bike, I mean JFC. obviously my living in NYC for 20 years I didnt have any outrageously bad experiences w cops but many experiences with cops nonetheless (some as victim of a crime, some as accused of a crime [yes me! accused! of turnstyle crime!], and some social) that showed directly how checked out, corrupt, violently reactive, and not very bright a significant percentage of them are
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wasabi brain
@virtualinanity@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke the presidential report that came out after Ferguson was very eye opening for me. These cities dependent on fining and jailing poor minorities create more poverty, more desperarion, more crime through continuous extraction of these communities
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mekka okereke :verified:
@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

Let me bring it home for y'all using a topical example: ICE.

ICE has always been bad, but recently it's ramped up. It doesn't matter if an individual ICE agent is a good person or a bad person. The system of ICE now requires them to hit a deportation quota, so they are all targeting civilians.

There are dangerous undocumented immigrants. Very dangerous. Consider the 100 most dangerous undocumented immigrants in a population of 12 million undocumented people. People like "Big Dragon."

But you cannot find them.

Suppose the ICE Dangerous Fugitive Apprehension Team is looking for Big Dragon

https://www.tiktok.com/@adrianembrey/video/7269578282482322731

Suppose the hypothetical Big Dragon threatened to shoot an undocumented taco cart vendor on Wilshire Blvd in LA, in front of over 100 people, 80 of whom were undocumented.

Then the ICE team shows up, looking for people to "come down to DHS and make a statement."

No one is talking. No one is going🙅🏽‍♀️

This is beyond "Stop snitching," and a cultural revulsion to cooperating with police.

This is beyond "Snitches get stitches," and fear of reprisal from the hypothetical Big Dragon or his associates.

This is a rational understanding that giving a statement holds a real risk of detention to CECOT.

Would the other taco vendors have been more likely to call Immigra on the hypothetical Big Dragon:

* In the 1990s, before the creation of ICE?

* In the 2000s, after ICE was created, but before this round of mass deportations?

* Now, in the full fascism and mass deportation era?

If ICE does an NYPD style "work stoppage" and doesn't deport a single person for a period of 6 months...

Do you think that would increase or decrease the likelihood that an undocumented person would be willing to help ICE find and arrest the hypothetical Big Dragon?

Consider a kind, undocumented taco stand vendor in LA. In 20 years he has never even thought of carrying a gun before. He had always assumed that if he ran into trouble, he would just call 911.

Now he realises that he can't call 911. ICE.

And he just saw hypothetical Big Dragon threaten a man...

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mekka okereke :verified:
@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

If you understood this thread, then you will understand why due to ICE's recent actions:

*Arrests of violent criminals who are undocumented will go down🤡

*Violent crime by undocumented people will go up

*Unlicensed gun ownership among undocumented people will go up

So ICE is creating crime.

You can prioritize deporting the 100 most dangerous undocumented people, who commit the vast majority of the violent crimes.

Or you can prioritize deporting the 12 million other undocumented people.

But you can't prioritize both.

Again, to put the numbers in perspective:

Of ~12 million undocumented people, 50,000 are in ICE detention. That's bad.

Of ~20 million Black men, 4 million will be imprisoned at some point in their life. Not a typo. 1 in 5.

Those are horrific numbers.

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Nick Silkey🎙️N5ILK 🪓🪵 🪣💧
@nicksilkey@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke and none of those millions get to freely cast ballots for representation ever again. 👀

A system is what it does. Heckuva job, Brownie. ✌️💙

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Misuse Case
@MisuseCase@twit.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke I am not surprised about ICE creating crime: policing seems to create a lot of crime. And that’s not even taking into account cops who are in murder gangs or drug dealing gangs.
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αxel simon ↙︎↙︎↙︎
@axx@mstdn.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke Idiotic Crime Enablers, then.

Excellent thread.

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Philip Mallegol-Hansen
@philip@mastodon.mallegolhansen.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke Heck, even as a white, now US-citizen, immigrant to this country, *I* am starting to rethink whether I need to arm myself explicitly for protection *from* the law.

And if I am thinking that in my position of relative privilege, you bet others are too.

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Nicovel0 🍉
@Nicovel0@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago
@mekkaokereke and of course most crime against undocumented migrants is committed by unscrupulous employers
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