Gotta love this one ...
Espiner: "51% of people say you're out of touch."
#CLuxon: "Well I just say to you I think I am, because I'm out and about talking to New Zealanders ..."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/30-with-guyon-espiner?share=514c090c-041b-48b6-8c90-bf6986a67eb2
Even as he tries to deny it, his unconscious knows what Espiner said is undeniably true (that 51% of people in survey X see him that way), and let's the cat out of the bag.
He's not even a competent liar, let alone a competent leader. The classic Hollow Man.