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Jeremiah Lee
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@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Day 2 kicked off with focus on EU’s ambition to have its own search engine.

Search is critical Internet infrastructure. ~“What if Europe only had 2 newspapers?” — @grani

Technically, search engines require a large amount storage and compute. They also require ongoing human infrastructure for ML refinement, operation, legal.

I am not sure how this can be done in a federated way, but @openwebsearcheu is trying.

https://openwebsearch.eu/?ref=activitypub

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Jeremiah Lee
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@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Day 2 kicked off with focus on EU’s ambition to have its own search engine.

Search is critical Internet infrastructure. ~“What if Europe only had 2 newspapers?” — @grani

Technically, search engines require a large amount storage and compute. They also require ongoing human infrastructure for ML refinement, operation, legal.

I am not sure how this can be done in a federated way, but @openwebsearcheu is trying.

https://openwebsearch.eu/?ref=activitypub

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@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago
@openwebsearcheu’s first step in creating a search engine has been indexing the web: crawling the web, reducing the HTML from exabytes to petabytes, then to terabyte slices that are distributed.

The equivalent to Google/Bing webmaster tools for info on its crawl of your site: https://openwebindex.eu/websites/www.jeremiahlee.com?ref=activitypub

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@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Michael Granitzer: Distributing a web index is a legal challenge. Over 80 laws across the EU related to content legality, copyright, AI, and others. Currently, data is only distributed under a research license, so no commercial use of the data is possible at the moment.

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@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

European Parliamentarian @alexandrageese examined the US far right’s “attack on knowledge”. She warned about the "industrial censorship complex" false narrative being used to attack freedom of speech.

Article 34 of DSA can help counter, but better option would be for more EU-based tech infrastructure and less dependence on the US Big Tech companies whose leaders have kissed Trump’s ring.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/01/capitol-hill-hearing-biden-censorship-trump?ref=activitypub

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@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

European Parliamentarian @alexandrageese:

We don’t want a "European Google". We want a independent, federation of viable alternatives to Google.

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