"It would be more accurately described as a plan to intensify the war to the profit of a few Russians and Americans. It seems to have produced entirely or mostly by Russians, and then leaked by a Russian negotiator to an American outlet. It was then claimed by a fraction within the White House, endorsed (sight unseen) by the president of the United States, who insisted (at least at first) that Ukraine had to accept it."
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"Since then there have been many denials, denials of denials, and obfuscations. ...
This suggests the absence of American statecraft.
It looks a lot like (details below) that Russians are seeking to bribe Americans to allow Russia to win a war it would otherwise lose. Having allowed Russians in this instance to design our policy, we then rely on our European and Ukrainian allies to serve as a check on us."
"The raging trash fire that is the so-called 'peace plan' for Ukraine is all the evidence you need that Donald Trump has not only lost the narrative, he’s lost the last clue he ever had about the location of anything even resembling reality."
~ Lucian K. Truscott
#Putin #Trump #Zelensky #Russia #Ukraine #PutinsPoodle
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https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/trump-is-vulnerable-hit-him-then
"Erin Banco and Gram Slattery of Reuters reported that the proposal had come out of a meeting in Miami between Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Dmitriev, who leads one of Russia’s largest sovereign wealth funds. They reported that senior officials in the State Department and on the National Security Council were not briefed about the plan."
~ Heather Cox Richardson
#Putin #Trump #Zelensky #Russia #Ukraine #PutinsPoodle
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https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-23-2025
"This morning, Bill Kristol of The Bulwark reported rumors that Vice President J.D. Vance was 'key to US embrace of Russia plan on Ukraine, Rubio (and even Trump) out of the loop.' He posted that relations between Vance and Rubio are 'awful' and that Rubio did, in fact, tell the senators what they said he did."
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