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Mariya Delano
@mariyadelano@hachyderm.io  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

So I grew up next to #Chernobyl and this is, well, TERRIFYING.

A story for y’all: I’m from a city called Zhytomyr, 2 hours west of Kyiv in the North of #Ukraine. We were downwind of the Chernobyl #nuclear power plant when the 1986 disaster happened.

I wasn’t born for another 12 years, but my childhood was filled with stories and the aftermath of it all. Things like:

- My grandmother worked as a head doctor in a hospital and rehabilitation facility exclusively for children of Chernobyl victims to treat the extremely high prevalence of Tuberculosis and other severe health complications. (To specify: these were SECOND GENERATION of exposure).

- A lot of the kids in that facility were orphans, because their parents died young from health problems.

- My uncle’s wife was born in Pripyat. She was 1 year old when the disaster happened. Her parents were told to evacuate while given no information about what happened. They had to pack up their things and rush out to an unfamiliar city with their baby, never to see the rest of their belongings, apartment, or hometown again.

- When I was a kid, it became so common to see weirdly mutated animals and insects that even 2-3 year olds would make jokes about “Chernobyl mosquitos” and I wouldn’t even flinch seeing occasional giant bugs, dark frogs, weird-looking dogs.

- We’d frequently hear of nearby farms having issues with their animals being born too mutated to survive or random outbreaks from contaminated water / food. Crops would randomly fail. People would get poisoned on a regular basis. This all got less common as I grew up.

- My mother still remembers being a little girl, 10 years old, and looking outside from their balcony at the clouds blowing over from Chernobyl that day. People were told to not go outside and to shut all the windows, but not given an explanation as to why. My mother swears that the rain looked different. They weren’t able to go and buy more food for the kitchen for multiple days.

Anyway - nuclear safety isn’t a joke. I don’t understand how this level of carelessness can happen after Chernobyl and Fukushima.

https://www.404media.co/power-companies-are-using-ai-to-build-nuclear-power-plants/

404 Media

Power Companies Are Using AI To Build Nuclear Power Plants

Tech companies are betting big on nuclear energy to meet AIs massive power demands and they're using that AI to speed up the construction of new nuclear power plants.
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quintessence :blobfoxcofecute:
@quintessence@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@mariyadelano

I came across you post and as I was reading through the responses, I feel like there are a lot of people missing what I _think_ is the very important context of your post: the article you linked to:

**Power Companies Are Using AI To Build Nuclear Power Plants**

There is a lot of discussion around pro-con for nuclear power very broadly in the replies, which I get (and won't be stepping into 😅 ), but I suspect the bigger problem here is "since we know the failure mode for this technology (nuclear) is catastrophic and potentially planet ending, do we feel confident in our ability to use AI to mitigate that outcome or will we use AI to exacerbate it?"

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Mariya Delano
@mariyadelano@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@quintessence yes - you’re fully right. I was sharing the anecdotes specifically in the context of the article and that AI is being used to speed up regulatory processes to build nuclear power plants faster. And I was trying to say that the consequences of trying to cut corners with nuclear energy can be absolutely catastrophic.

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Seth of the Fediverse
@phillycodehound@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@mariyadelano wow 🤯 just wow. Thank you for sharing! ❤️

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Jeff Atwood
@codinghorror@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@mariyadelano however, it is important to note that what really caused Chernobyl was the lack of accountability of the soviet ruling system resulting in EXTREMELY poor engineering choices being perpetuated. I highly recommend the outstanding HBO series Chernobyl on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_(miniseries)

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Janus
@Newstrujew@autistics.life replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@codinghorror Which is of course completely different from the current US ruling system with its spotless accountability producing invariably great engineering choices. /sarcasm

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Jeff Atwood
@codinghorror@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Newstrujew @mariyadelano the CURRENT one, yes. But I am doing everything I possibly can to change that.

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Janus
@Newstrujew@autistics.life replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@codinghorror I strongly suspect that this coming up now is due to the current administration which can be bribed into ignoring safety standards and science. Otherwise there would be no point talking about "speeding up" the process.

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