I feel like the "it's good for building prototypes" vibe coding excuse ignores the way that building a prototype also helps build a strategy for how to code the real thing. As in, a prototype isn't just to validate the idea, it also helps validate the best course of production.
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@fasterandworse There’s also the fact that every “vibe coding” platform is effort wasted on bad practices rather than thoughtfully iterating on programming to make it easier and more approachable.
I’d much rather aim for far more expressive languages & APIs which work well in low-code environments than vibe coding a bunch of janky crap together atop a mountain of tech debt.
@fasterandworse the term "prototype" specifically implies it demonstrates some technical process for an engineering audience. it can't do that. it can do demos, which are entirely separate from a prototype and literally the one thing it is ever judged upon by people in charge of procurement. and the demos are usually cherrypicked to hell
@fasterandworse i find most of their bullshit to be rhetorical sleights of hand like this
@hipsterelectron "prototype" is a very powerful *business doing* word for selling these products
@fasterandworse yeah maybe i'm overindexing on my preferred usage of the term but i do think this is one reason that phrasing was chosen because "demo" (the correct one) would clarify that there's no there there
@hipsterelectron oh I'm agreeing with you 100%, you described my intended context as I read your post
@fasterandworse our CTO is also one of those "prototyping" kind of people (actually edited a book on the topic) but his understanding is so shallow. As if prototyping was just about getting to jiggling keys as quickly as possible.
@tante yeah and I can't imagine the people who respond to jiggling keys would be happy with the idea of a prototype being trashed to *then build it properly*
@fasterandworse oh prototypes never get thrown away. Just massaged a bit and put into production
@tante @fasterandworse Never seen a prototype, which was seen by a Product Manager, being trashed.
i'm not really interested in making this take or debating it. It's such a last gasp excuse for trying to push these products and I'd rather ignore it all, but I can't really help myself sometimes
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